This season's balance is the worst BY FAR

DropFill·Feb 12, 2016·303 votes·9,545 views

Never seen such a frustrating season to be played before. Terrible idea of 3-4-5 man premade on ranked. Extremely unbalanced champions for ages. Terribad changes to adc's like Quinn and Graves that are extremely OP. Addition of a item that only works on champions that have extremely bad balance state ( Talon and Zed ). Still lack of bans, even though we have 129 champions and ONLY 6 bans. ( This is not even 5% of the champion pool). Lack of AP niche items. Balance ONLY on AD items. Lack of nerfs on AD items because reasons. Thunderlord being one of the most retarded spells ever made. It adds a unecessary amount of burst to some champions. And the list goes on.

195 Comments

royalpasteFeb 12, 201685 votes

i love how riot had to buff XinZhao (who has fine) now if he maxes w he does stupid amounts of damage. the balance seems to have gone down hill since the juggernauts.

DropFillFeb 12, 201651 votes

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i love how riot had to buff (who has fine) now if he maxes w he does stupid amounts of damage. the balance seems to have gone down hill since the juggernauts.

Riot thinks 3 hit abilties are healthy and have counterplay. They seem to forgot that they are tied to basic attacks that can't be dodged.

HandheldBrandonFeb 12, 201620 votes

As long as they aren't on a ranged champ they can be kited though.

three hit abilities are useless if you can't hit the enemy.

charcharmunroFeb 12, 201617 votes

Yeah, shame Xin Zhao is one of the stickiest champions in the game.

elon wątrobaFeb 12, 201614 votes

Zac is stickiest heuheuheuheuhue

Masala ChaiFeb 12, 201615 votes

It's sticky so you don't drop it Twitch

Rew711Feb 12, 20163 votes

Twitch, the only balanced marksman/assassin. Can't even turn invisible if he isn't hit in the last 3 seconds.

ayNigerianPrinceFeb 12, 20169 votes

Underplayed =//= balanced

Vore MonsterFeb 12, 20162 votes

Twitch is pretty powerful right now.

If you want weak or a mess of a champion, look at Kog Maw or urgot.

SecretlolzFeb 12, 20163 votes

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Twitch is pretty powerful right now.

If you want weak or a mess of a champion, look at Kog Maw or urgot.

Kog'maw rapes anything and anyone with just a Guinsoo's. He isn't weak, by a long shot.

Vore MonsterFeb 13, 20163 votes

Kog isn't weak, he's a bit of a monstrosity of a champion. He's VERY feast or famine, and relies on two items. His scaling is an off base AP hybrid and has the weakest early game out of most marksman right now.

HandheldBrandonFeb 12, 20165 votes

As long as you got someone with Decent CC hes easy enough to peel off of a carry. Alistar Nami are 2 really good peelers and Janna is a nightmare for champs like XinZhao .

forrestoFeb 12, 20163 votes

you can peel him, but late game the question becomes can you peel fast enough to stop him from killing someone?

Unstoppable MonkFeb 12, 20165 votes

Stop making sense. Stop it.

That's like saying everything in season 6 is strong and people just need to learn how to play this new season instead of complaining.

HandheldBrandonFeb 13, 20163 votes

I know right?

I mean who needs knowledge and understanding anyways?

Unstoppable MonkFeb 13, 20161 votes

Yeah that's right! You can just spam full offensive FOTM main and blame your team for feeding the 3 kill 7 death assassin mid. Because defense building is for tanks!

HandheldBrandonFeb 13, 20162 votes

Seriously defensive items are so overrated.

Who needs armor when you can kill them faster.

DopaFeedFeb 12, 20167 votes

TahmKench

"""""as long as they aren't ranged"""""

FantasySniperFeb 12, 20167 votes

He was actually just short of being viable (compared to the rest of the current meta champ pool). People have said that the bonus AD ratio on the heal was all it would take, but alas.

Saeko24Feb 12, 201645 votes

"This season's balance is the worst BY FAR" Pretty much read this every season....

DecritFeb 12, 201624 votes

If a LoL season is released in the middle of the forest without people around to see it, it will still be regarded as the worst season so far?

SecretlolzFeb 12, 20161 votes

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"This season's balance is the worst BY FAR" Pretty much read this every season....

Season 3, 4 and 5 all had rough, horrible, disgusting starts. There is a pattern and this one follows it. It feels like It's worse because this time things we already hate are strong (Zed, Assasins, ADCs, Vayne, snowballs) and It just feels Riot is dedicated with fucking up this year (Dominion, buffing Zed, releasing an item FOR ZED, forcing games to be short and snowbally)

Reynard the ƒoxFeb 13, 20163 votes

Season 5 actually had a really fucking awesome start.

GOD DAMN I miss Cinderhulk meta.

DropFillFeb 13, 20162 votes

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Season 5 actually had a really fucking awesome start.

GOD DAMN I miss Cinderhulk meta.

It was the best meta, where you had to actually think about your team composition and stuff. Today you fucking lock in zed any day if you can

Reynard the ƒoxFeb 13, 20162 votes

Forgive me if I sound jaded, but the reason we say 'this season worst balance', is because each season gets progressively worse.

I know people are reluctant to embrace change, but we've been going on the season changes for two months and rather than fixing the problems we've seen, Riot has made even more balancing fumbles. It's a sad trend. In Season 5 I yearned for Season 4, but I'd take the ridiculously messy meta we had at Worlds 2015 any day over what he have now.

ExalomaniacFeb 13, 20162 votes

i dont think season 3 or 4 were unbalanced. it was just so many trolls and stupid people

KeevalroyFeb 12, 201643 votes

Are we ready to admit League isn't going in the right direction yet Riot? Or are you too busy jerking off to your handiwork to bother caring?

DropFillFeb 12, 201620 votes

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Are we ready to admit League isn't going in the right direction yet Riot? Or are you too busy jerking off to your handiwork to bother caring?

They can't. They have that superiority disorder, don't know how to say. But they seem to think they are always right, and take way too much time to actually see they messed up

IceKingChernobogFeb 12, 20169 votes

Oh Overwatch grant me sweet merciful release from this game, i'll gladly fork over the 40 bucks

J E B A ł T E DFeb 12, 20167 votes

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Oh Overwatch grant me sweet merciful release from this game, i'll gladly fork over the 40 bucks

Overwa.... ResidentSleeper

PiVoRxFeb 12, 201614 votes

Meanwhile at Riot's office: http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/turned-on.gif "We can do whatever we want and you have to deal with it"

CerbearusFeb 12, 201611 votes

Well, not the worst actually. If anybody remembers League of Warmogs or League of Cleavers, they would agree with me.

When literally every champion builds 6 of the same item every game, that's when you can say the game is legitimately broken.

forrestoFeb 12, 20168 votes

does anyone else miss the tank meta? now everyone feels like cardboard, and the average tank has maybe a 2 second lifespan in big fights

Solidair3Feb 12, 20167 votes

Ahhhh. This post again. Is it that time of year already?

NeoAndersonFeb 13, 20167 votes

Ghostcrawler killed World of Warcraft arena. I expected him to do the same to this game and he has. Time for another game unfortunetly.

TheDrácoFeb 13, 20163 votes

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Ghostcrawler killed World of Warcraft arena. I expected him to do the same to this game and he has. Time for another game unfortunetly.

Melee champs with too many gap closers and CC, Ranged champs with waaaaay too much damage. Definitely Ghostcrawler's work.

Wildheaven182Feb 12, 20165 votes

Maybe it has to do with Tencent, since as of preseason Riot sold all of their equity to them. http://www.polygon.com/2015/12/16/10326320/riot-games-now-owned-entirely-by-tencent "Major changes are coming to League of Legends in 2016,"

I've heard that Tencent also has a reputation for buying out games and trashing them with things like crafting systems.

SecretlolzFeb 12, 20162 votes

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Maybe it has to do with Tencent, since as of preseason Riot sold all of their equity to them. http://www.polygon.com/2015/12/16/10326320/riot-games-now-owned-entirely-by-tencent "Major changes are coming to League of Legends in 2016,"

I've heard that Tencent also has a reputation for buying out games and trashing them with things like crafting systems.

"Crafting systems"?

Like Hextech crafting about to come?

People still don't notice most of the mind control factors bound to this game yet, even when they know about tencent little social experiment on china

Emperor TimeFeb 12, 20164 votes

I think everyones just salty that marksmen can finally go to other roles besides bot lane.

IS3E531E3F964391Feb 12, 201627 votes

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I think everyones just salty that marksmen can finally go to other roles besides bot lane.

I think people are more annoyed that graves is the top pick in 3 roles

NuparuFeb 12, 20165 votes

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I think everyones just salty that marksmen can finally go to other roles besides bot lane.

much like supports if ads can go to multiple lanes it breaks the balance pretty fucking hard

DarkRitualFeb 12, 201615 votes

Sona and Janna are viable outside of support? NERF! Graves and Quinn are viable in three roles? Not a problem.

QuortFeb 12, 20162 votes

I believe its because Supports are designed to work efficiently on a lower gold income that using them in a solo lane makes them overbearing. Their tendency to also have strong disengage and defensive capabilities means they're used more often than not to stagnate lanes and deny snowball reliant Champions. I think it should be a viable option, but it does lead to rather boring and uninteractive games which is less than ideal.

KynamiFeb 12, 20166 votes

Sona? Strong defense? Strong disengage?

Yeah... about that. She has zero on-demand CC until 6th, and even then it has a stupidly long cooldown. Stupidly flimsy too, you practically have to run a pile of HP from mastery and runes just to avoid getting 3-shot in lane.

And don't even bother mentioning the heal and shield. Its almost pointless in a duo-lane. It is pointless in a solo one though. That rework considerably hurt her build options too.

THEJJSLAYFeb 12, 20163 votes

I've played since beta and I have all but quit for this season, maybe next season I'll come back.

VulcanIsHereFeb 12, 20165 votes

see you next week

THEJJSLAYFeb 12, 20164 votes

Sorry should have said I won't be playing with the amount of frequency I have been for the past 6 years, I'll still play normals once in a while though.

The 99th ProblemFeb 12, 20162 votes

Lol just curious, how is Quinn op? Her ult grants her superior mobility, however in a team fight or a 1 v 1 duel it does nothing for her, whereas other adc's will have a high damage nuke that benefits them for an ult.

HaugheyPuck99Feb 12, 20167 votes

It's because they changed her harrier passive. It used to be pretty random but now it's a heck of a lot more reliable, especially since her Q applies it and has a super oppressive vision reduction mechanic to it (seriously, I'd rather it just stun me than that stupid blind because I'm useless during it either way), so she can proc her harrier 2-3 times per engage on someone

SecretlolzFeb 12, 20162 votes

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Lol just curious, how is Quinn op? Her ult grants her superior mobility, however in a team fight or a 1 v 1 duel it does nothing for her, whereas other adc's will have a high damage nuke that benefits them for an ult.

You can't fight Quinn in a 1v1 and expect to win.

You're forced to wait for a gank to kill her, and of course, It's not a 100% kill chance. She isn't THAT strong, she is just incredibly frustrating to play against. It feels abusive and the stupid noise spam she permanently makes are obnoxious