Minions need to deal 2x damage to ranged champions

FalconPawwwwnch·Feb 17, 2017·10 votes·812 views

Sick of Quinn/Jayce/Kennen rightclicking me to death at level 1-3 without them paying anything for it

30 Comments

Best Kog NAFeb 17, 20177 votes

how about no

MissingKayoFeb 17, 20173 votes

how about an actual counterargument

Best Kog NAFeb 17, 20171 votes

would all fall under the ranged category and therefore suffer from this change.

MissingKayoFeb 17, 20171 votes

Then they can be appropriately re-balanced around that.

And Thresh really shouldn't be eating minion aggro much in the first place.

AhristocatsFeb 17, 20173 votes

Thresh so? you mean he doesn't get to poke for free from range?

you're aware that right now ZERO FUCKING melee supports are viable in high elo?

Best Kog NAFeb 17, 20171 votes

What about the other two, and there's a lot of mages who are ranged that would suffer from this too

Best princess EUFeb 17, 20174 votes

then leave the thread

AhristocatsFeb 17, 20176 votes

Glad i'm not the only one realising how bullshit ranged champions are let me ask to other toplane non-ranged champions high elo players

i'm sure they will love the idea

now if we talk about it seriously it won't change shit, because how often do you see a ranged champion getting hit by minions?

minions need to have more movement speed first, and trigger aggro on right-clicking rather than on attacking this will allow melee players to draw the wave back to their tower to be able to farm

heck this change will allow us to play more melee botlane

Handy Sandy Feb 17, 20174 votes

Melee top laners vs Ranged top laners is actually so unfair. Just freeze lane in front of your tower and zone them off completely. I did this and had around 50 cs while my opponent had 14.

MissingKayoFeb 17, 20173 votes

Auto the enemy laner every time they get in AA range, pick off your own CS only when it gets to single-auto health, repeat.

RIP enemy laner.

Handy Sandy Feb 17, 20171 votes

And the thing is, I was playing a mage top. At least they have to use MANA, I can't imagine if I could right click to do 10% of their health.

Asayake 5150glowFeb 18, 20171 votes

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Melee top laners vs Ranged top laners is actually so unfair. Just freeze lane in front of your tower and zone them off completely. I did this and had around 50 cs while my opponent had 14.

That's the fucking point.

Ever wonder why most ranged top laners fall off?

I mean, except Ryze and Kennen. But those guys are just... yeah.

THE RlVER KlNGFeb 18, 20171 votes

can't hear you pretending to care about range discrepancies over the sound of your Sona Syndrome for Jhin

ZephyrDrakeFeb 17, 20175 votes

sure, if they deal 500% more damage to melees as well. Deal? no, then sorry but no

Best princess EUFeb 17, 20173 votes

sorry but yes

ZephyrDrakeFeb 17, 20171 votes

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sorry but yes

sorry but no

Best princess EUFeb 17, 20174 votes

ressourceless almost no cd point and click 500 range 70 damage

what could be wrong in giving it some risk?

CancerBasedGodFeb 17, 20172 votes

Amazing how many people take this serious... This is a joke right?

fuffychanFeb 17, 20172 votes

Downvotes on your terrible threads need to count for -2

MaeDoSanFeb 17, 20171 votes

nerf their base armor ?

MissingKayoFeb 17, 20172 votes

Doesn't help when a melee will never hit them nor will the minions.

MaeDoSanFeb 17, 20171 votes

Making ranged champs weaker is the only option Leaving CS and waiting for them to push lanes and gank them is the way to win Tanks should be meele with higher base resistances Ranged with lower base resistances The range advantage seems like a fair trade for the higher base defensive stats

MissingKayoFeb 17, 20171 votes

Higher base stats don't matter.

The ranged champion will be hitting you. You won't be hitting them.

Minions will be hitting you. Minions really won't be hitting them.

MaeDoSanFeb 17, 20171 votes

It does matter because you will be stronger in all ins or prolonged trades If you are meele vs ranged you shouldn't even be trying to go for short trades where minions are not even contributing to the fight

MissingKayoFeb 17, 20171 votes

What trades? You're not ever going to be in melee range of them to trade.

MaeDoSanFeb 17, 20171 votes

Which champions are you talking about ? If you are playing ranked ,where this discussion actually matters , you have control over the match up .

MissingKayoFeb 17, 20171 votes

Pretty much every single melee versus every single ranged toplaner? Same for melee mids vs ranged mids.

Yeah let me magically change my pick when they pick after I do.

MaeDoSanFeb 17, 20171 votes

Just name the match up and why you picked it ?

Meep ManFeb 18, 20171 votes

That's actually a LOT more damage.

Asayake 5150glowFeb 18, 20171 votes

You do realize that there's something called: staying out of range? Ever wonder why Jayce Quinn fall off late game? (or used to, once upon a time).

If you let yourself take free damage by not avoiding them by staying out of range, you deserve to take that damage. If you are avoiding them and they auto you anyway, they will eat a shit ton of minion damage.

Might as well wonder why Panth Q doesn't draw aggro.