Remove the chance to get champion shards from chests

The Ecdysiast··89 votes·2,892 views

Now that we get tons of them, don't fuck us over by keeping it possible to get them instead of skins from chests.

I know some people may think it's good to have another source of essence, but now that you get champion shards so often we do not need that.

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YuGiHo14 votes

i opened 10 chest i was saving the past few months and only got 3 skin shards out of them, the rest was blue essence ans champ shards even though i own every champion already. i dont see why anyone would risk money to buy a chest+key when it seems like its over a 60% chance you get pretty much nothing.

InfinitexMortal3 votes

Come on you know you want another Annie shard out of that chest you spent money on [slayer-jinx-wink]

YuGiHo2 votes

I dint get Annie but u made me realize most of she champ chards were for the cheaper champs, i got a bunch of garen,poppy,alistar. all the cheap guys so the blue essence i got form it all wasn't even too great either.

Akali Prime2 votes

yea i stopped spending left over Rp from skins to buy keys/chest because literally every single time i did all i got was a champion shard

Treeofwar10 votes

can we remove the shot of getting champ shards in honor capsules because all i got was a ryze and a WW shard in mine.

Fisher No Chains3 votes

This.

I understand their reasons for Hextech chests, but honor capsules? I’ve got like 2 since honor system came out (so, 4 months?) and what I’ve gotten was... a fucking Amumu shard and 2 key fragments, and a fucking Udyr shard (iirc, still worthless) and 3 key fragments.

Kanzler1 votes

At least you get key fragments. All I get are champ shards while I sit and wait for more key fragments to open my 7 chests.

Mokuto Bunshi3 votes

I think they should do this only for people who have all the champs, because for me if I get 600 BE or a champ shard worth 600 BE that doesn't make a difference. HOWEVER, I did just make a post complaining about the shards not being worth enough BE so I can agree with that.

notice me Sin pi5 votes

personally, i think there's nothing wrong with having have more sources of blue essence. But if riot wants to nerf the only source of orange essence by 40%, then they should definitely compensate for it by increasing the chances of getting skin shards, or even just ward skin shards; no one with a sober mind would ever purchase those ripoff chests for 125 RP.

The Space Cowboy3 votes

I’m the opposite. I think it’s nice getting supplemental BE for good play.

TwitchInMyPants2 votes

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I’m the opposite. I think it’s nice getting supplemental BE for good play.

Chests are considered a premium item

Why would you ever want to buy chests if there's a good chance of it dumping a champ shard that has this preseason nerfed value?

And you get at most 1 free a week, it takes 3 weeks and good luck to even get a single free skin that's either cheap or random. Its a very slow trickle even assuming the best case where you get skin shards every chest. If the free boxes had a different loot gen then maybe that's fine but as long as they are the same chests are terrible value for the RP spent.

DracosKasu2 votes

If you want to gamble, it is at your own risk. You are much better to brought a mystery skin instead of a lootbox.

I dont even understand why you risk your money on those from the moment theyinclude them except if you really want the lootbox exclusive which his why they are there in the first place.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

There are plenty of bad skins and repeats that you're risking the shard for even if they remove champion shards.

The Ecdysiast2 votes

You can't get another chest on that champion, and you don't get keys from good play.

You already get supplemental BE for playing, it's in the level up capsules. Unless they swap the key fragments to full keys whenever you get one, this is nothing but unfair to us.

Paladin 0f Life2 votes

Lol ive been playing since s4 and still dont have 50 of the champs

Dråco6 votes

Well when you have been playing this game since before season 1, and you own almost every champ in the game, getting these champ shards is a kick in the nuts. They could come up with some coding that recognizes each persons account as an individual, and give us champ shards according to how many you own, the more you own the less likely you are to get champ shards. Also blue essence amounts should be comparable to the old IP amounts. Selling a 450 IP champ returns 90 blue essence now, that is just lame. Also to add onto the frequency of champ shards, make it smart, make it detect what we dont own, and give us access to those FIRST, before we see one we already own. This level of random is to RNG, and this game already has far to much of that in its game play.

Paladin 0f Life3 votes

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Well when you have been playing this game since before season 1, and you own almost every champ in the game, getting these champ shards is a kick in the nuts. They could come up with some coding that recognizes each persons account as an individual, and give us champ shards according to how many you own, the more you own the less likely you are to get champ shards. Also blue essence amounts should be comparable to the old IP amounts. Selling a 450 IP champ returns 90 blue essence now, that is just lame. Also to add onto the frequency of champ shards, make it smart, make it detect what we dont own, and give us access to those FIRST, before we see one we already own. This level of random is to RNG, and this game already has far to much of that in its game play.

Thats great and all. But riot promises free to play. For you the game is unlocked. Ive played for 4 friggin years... pretty often. And i havent unlocked 1/4th of the game. I like getting free stuff. What else can you buy besides chromas, name change and specials? I agree i want more champs. I feel cheated by the old rune system in that regard. But i know will own all champs up to 3150, just gotta somehow get BE

Perfect Plumage2 votes

The free to play system is 100% not designed for the portion of the player base who already owns 90%+ of the roster and sits on a mountain of BE.

This is a good thing because any system designed for them would not work for the vast majority of the players.

Final Spark Lux2 votes

It's the only thing stopping me from buying some tbh.

Liveey2 votes

If they want to make money they should offer a champion skin shard drop 100% chance in like the next 2-3 boxes in the store :3 etc

hue

Sraeg20132 votes

You are a horrible person, you know?

Liveey1 votes

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You are a horrible person, you know?

How so? I am only stating a fact, why wouldnt you get such an item? Many people would get it because many people dont want another udyr champion shard.

Sraeg20132 votes

And thus orange essence gains are lowered by half.

Again.

The Ecdysiast2 votes

You can't halve 0.

Sraeg20131 votes

Yes, you can.

It's just zero.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

That's not really correct. If you do something that is equal to doing nothing, you've done nothing.

Mcsquzzy2 votes

emotes hurt me more

InfinitexMortal1 votes

[sg-miss-fortune] True story

MysterQ1 votes

Every third chest is a skin shard (maybe ward?).

You will have so many skin shards, we have to decrease the OE gained.

InfinitexMortal1 votes

[zombie-brand-clap]

feeding time1 votes

I dunno how I feel about this; 98% of the time, I get a skin shard that I have no interest in, whereas with champion shards, it's guaranteed BE.

I don't think I mind receiving champion shards from chests, at least with those, I know I'm going to use it.

The Ecdysiast2 votes

Guaranteed BE means nothing for me or many older players. And the same goes for professionals, be they sponsored or streamers, who always own every champion.

You need to remember you're getting champion shards from leveling up now, as opposed to having chests be the only source before. Now that you're guaranteed 1-6 champion shards every level there's no reason you should need a chest and three fragments to get only one champion shard.

Zakedas Ramani1 votes

Honestly, the Hextech system has gone to shit. I literally just woke up, logged on, got a key fragment, made a key, opened a chest and got a single champion (Renekton) shard. Keep in mind, you STILL have to earn the hextech chests by getting S ranks in pvp games! That feels awful when all you got from something, that you (or a team mate) legitimately earned by doing well, is a single pretty much worthless shard. And as other people have already pointed out, there's already several ways for us to get champions shards, Champion capsules (upon leveling up), honor capsules, and now you also get BE for the first win of the day but even then we're still not really earning BE fast enough for those of us who DON'T own every champion the game has to offer.

It just feels incredibly lackluster when you legitimately earned something and all you get from it is..well..trash. There's a few ways I would personally change this:

  1. If you're going to give me something champion-related (from a chest that you HAVE to earn an S- or better to acquire) give me a fucking random champion straight out. even if I don't necessarily like or want the champion, at least it'll feel rewarding to have earned a new champion to maybe play at some point.

OR

  1. If you're not going to remove the chance of getting champion shards from hexchests, lower the requirements for earning a (regular) chest, say bump it down to earning A- to A+ (as well as increase the rate at which you can get them) and then insert the masterwork chest in the S- to S+ spot

OR

  1. You could, y'know, revert back to the way chests were and eliminate the masterwork chest right out.

My point, at the end of the day is, it now feels that even if you earn an S rank, there's too high of a chance to get something that doesn't feel rewarding. And it's not making me want to keep playing your game, Riot.

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