I'm not saying that Zed is too stron or too weak ATM, because he is roughly balanced

Zero Skill Tank·Sep 17, 2017·10 votes·818 views

I'm just sayig that balancing a champion to have 75% winrate before 25 minutes because of one stupidly powerfull rush item might not be the healthiest thing in the world, even if he drops like a stone after that.

AFAIR whole idea behind Zed changes was to make him less opressive. But what is happening now is Zed relying in 100% on early oppression.

Right now he doesn't have absurd winrate or banrate, because mages are worthless compared to AD anyway, but once meta shifts and mages become relevant again he is bound to reach 80% banrate in his current state.

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Dark NephthysSep 17, 20173 votes

Yea I personally think item 3147 is a stupid item and should get nerfed. If that means Zed needs to be buffed as a compensation then that is fine. I used to hate Zed with a passion but I don't really mind him as much anymore. Sure I do still die a little inside when fighting him but I don't really consider him OP but just annoying.

I just think Duskblade is way to strong of an item. If they aren't going to do an overall nerf to the item, then maybe just nerf the item for ranged champions a little more. So that it's not abused by non-assassins, since most (if not all) AD Assassins are melee anyways.

341123545652Sep 17, 20172 votes

The main problem is duskblade , it literally does more damage than his own abilities LOL

341123545652Sep 17, 20173 votes

and they made it apply to his ult. its a cheese item that is the only thing left is making assassins even pickable in the disgusting stack adcs meta

Need Gold 4 TentSep 17, 20172 votes

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and they made it apply to his ult. its a cheese item that is the only thing left is making assassins even pickable in the disgusting stack adcs meta

An item that is also happily shared by the ADCs it was meant to kill

waiting for WoWSep 17, 20171 votes

I can name 3 mages that can easily shit on zed

Malzahar Annie Swain

More mages that can easily bully him out of lane at level 2-3

Cassiopeia Velkoz Xerath

Zed is like the Kassadin of AD assassins in that his laning is among the worst in the game before he gets his ult.

TokogawarufSep 17, 20172 votes

A good Zed gets his Kills before Ult, not after. My Friend Hardcore Mains Zed and the only Matchups he just cant get first Blood on Lane are Yasuo and Lucian .

Zero Skill TankSep 17, 20173 votes

You are spewing nonsense. Zed's pre-six is not as strong as it used to be when obnoxious bug granted him like 15% bonus damage for free, but he is more than capable of very aggressive plays without his ult.

Serika ZeroSep 17, 20178 votes

zed is weak in the early game, like, lv 1 and lv 2. After that, he gets kill pressure and becomes quite strong till people get a few items completed, so, like lv 11 to 15 is where his power drops.

as a mage (like the ones you mentioned), you need to assert your superiority at lv 1 and 2 if you don't want to get destroyed afterwards. but the likes of vel'coz which mostly pushes, just gives zed free exp to get his levels and farm.... xerath is quite in a similar fashion, you can easily make him push waves by forcing him to Q you though a minion wave

ArakadiaSep 17, 20171 votes

Cass, Koz, and Xerath can easily bully him out of lane at level 2-3. After that, Zed will be controlling the wave hard.

KhristophorosSep 17, 20171 votes

I main Vel'Koz and all I have to say to you is HELL NAW

Maybe you are facing shitty Zeds.

notmebuthimSep 17, 20171 votes

summoner 3 [katarina-love]

An Enemy SutandoSep 17, 20173 votes

Exhaust isn't a magic wand that stops him from roaming or controlling the wave.

WoonStruckSep 17, 20171 votes

Not saying I disagree, but where are you getting this "75% winrate before 25 minutes" info?

Zero Skill TankSep 17, 20171 votes

champion.gg plots it. Right now it shows 69.79% before 25 minutes, but yesterday it showed 74 point something. Not much difference anyway, considering how even crazy early game powerhouses typically have around 60.