Am I the only one that's glad they're removing fervor of battle?

FalconPawwwwnch·May 31, 2017·6 votes·716 views

Really is way too much free damage

23 Comments

PermabannedGarenMay 31, 20172 votes

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Really is way too much free damage

Got a source my man?

SukishooMay 31, 20172 votes

Who said they are removing it?

Critmaster GarenMay 31, 20172 votes

fervor is responsible for so much bullshit. it just provokes bruiser builds on assassins and adc, because it grants so much item independent damage. im kinda glad it hasnt caught on yet how easily this mastery alone allows many champions to build tanky, who shouldnt be able to.

good riddance.

e46 FanaticMay 31, 20171 votes

Considering I typically see it used on the wrong champions, that keystone doesn't bother me one bit. I hardly see anyone apply sense when picking their mastery keys.

FeelsCampedManMay 31, 20172 votes

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I hardly see anyone apply sense when picking their mastery keys.

Says the guy who plays CotC Kennen....

e46 FanaticMay 31, 20172 votes

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Says the guy who plays CotC Kennen....

Yes and I'm also 1 token away from level 7. Do I REALLY need to explain to you why CotC is well for Kennen? What else would I use and how would that beat how useful CotC is late game? I will straight up debate it all with you. I am a man of my own builds just like the rest should be and stop following guides off the internet.

FeelsCampedManMay 31, 20172 votes

Can you explain it to all the high elo players who never take it on him? Who cares if you're 1 token away from 7? Mastery system just means you have a ton of games on a champ

e46 FanaticMay 31, 20171 votes

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Can you explain it to all the high elo players who never take it on him? Who cares if you're 1 token away from 7? Mastery system just means you have a ton of games on a champ

http://imgur.com/a/rkhHW

I only have 30k points on him bro.

Also, I don't pay attention to high elo players, once again, I am a man of my own builds.

You made me lol when you mentioned high elo players. I bet you they can't even tell you why they build what they do.

TEA Nietzsche May 31, 20172 votes

Why would it matter how many points you have? Overall you play on a very low level which means that you obviously do not play him properly. This is why you don't realize how strong Kennen's early game is and how much worse CotC is in terms of 1v1 splitpush potential and laningphase. And less 1v1 equals less sidelane pressure which equals less flank opportunities.

People experiment too much and not too little, before you start experimenting you should be able to do the basics.

e46 FanaticMay 31, 20172 votes

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Why would it matter how many points you have? Overall you play on a very low level which means that you obviously do not play him properly. This is why you don't realize how strong Kennen's early game is and how much worse CotC is in terms of 1v1 splitpush potential and laningphase. And less 1v1 equals less sidelane pressure which equals less flank opportunities.

People experiment too much and not too little, before you start experimenting you should be able to do the basics.

He said I must have a lot of games play on him, I proved him wrong. That's where that came from. You haven't played a match with me and you're going to assume I don't play him properly? My splitpushing with kennen is at a high right now. Me having CotC is not going to stop me from doing heavy damage, though, it will prevent me from taking heavy damage. Do you know what you're even saying? No offense given man you're just not saying much

TEA Nietzsche May 31, 20172 votes

You used your mastery to prove that you have proficiency on Kennen but the other user pointed out that mastery is not indicative of proficiency, it's simply saying that you have a decent amount of games on him.

Look, I do not mean to eloshame you or anything, but as a matter of fact you play Kennen with very mediocre success at a very low level - which is of course fine especially seeing how you have only ranked in season 6 before, but it is still a low level. If you played his early game properly you would have much more success at your elo than you apparantly have right now. Again, I can only reiterate and recommend you to use sites such as probuilds.net - there you see what high elo players use. And keep in mind that pro players use builds/masteries/runes that work the best because that is literally what they do as a job.

If you genuinely want to improve you should look to first learn to play the game in the most efficient way so that you understand why pro players build what they build. Once you actually understand that it's fine to branch out.

e46 FanaticMay 31, 20171 votes

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You used your mastery to prove that you have proficiency on Kennen but the other user pointed out that mastery is not indicative of proficiency, it's simply saying that you have a decent amount of games on him.

Look, I do not mean to eloshame you or anything, but as a matter of fact you play Kennen with very mediocre success at a very low level - which is of course fine especially seeing how you have only ranked in season 6 before, but it is still a low level. If you played his early game properly you would have much more success at your elo than you apparantly have right now. Again, I can only reiterate and recommend you to use sites such as probuilds.net - there you see what high elo players use. And keep in mind that pro players use builds/masteries/runes that work the best because that is literally what they do as a job.

If you genuinely want to improve you should look to first learn to play the game in the most efficient way so that you understand why pro players build what they build. Once you actually understand that it's fine to branch out

I'd rather build to cope with MY playstyle and the match that I'm currently playing, not some random person's build. You will never eloshame me, I have 100 days of gameplay and had a crappy time during all of my placements. I deserve well above bronze rank and any honest person that plays with me would very much understand that. You'll never give me the benefit of your doubt so I'm done replying to you, the only reason I have low scores for kennen is because the whole time I've been playing him (1 week) I have had 100ms - 2kms lag spikes for nearly 2 weeks now, almost every match. If you think I'm joking (ofcourse you will) then let me know and I'll send you video/picture proof of multiple matches in a row where I am suffering with lag. The fact that I have done as good as I have is amazing considering my lag. Go recommend that build site to a new player, but I'm far from new. Thanks for your time muh dude.

TEA Nietzsche May 31, 20171 votes

You are stuck in Bronze 3 with 160+ games and a <50% winrate, stop the excuses. But hey, I guess Bronze is a playstyle aswell!

e46 FanaticMay 31, 20171 votes

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You are stuck in Bronze 3 with 160+ games and a <50% winrate, stop the excuses. But hey, I guess Bronze is a playstyle aswell!

You're just a hater. Take that hate to counseling and not me. You're right I am stuck in bronze with a crappy winrate, it's bronze and I don't bring a duo. I find it funny that you're still trying to offend me, it only shows that you know you're wrong. You make me laugh and once again, you won't offend me. I know I'm a great player and you know it as well or else you wouldn't be nagging me still. If you're so interested in me why don't you just ask me out to dinner? I'm done talking to you, kid. No matter what I say or prove to you, you'll still just talk nonsense. I will no longer stoop to your level of stupidity and denial. Go back to reading guides and watching player's to get good at the games you play.

TEA Nietzsche May 31, 20171 votes

I know I'm a great player and you know it as well or else you wouldn't be nagging me still.

Genuine question: why would I think that you are a great player? Why would you think that I'd be envious of your skill?

MuzétMay 31, 20171 votes

Where did you see that ? :o

QuephaMay 31, 20171 votes

and 60% attack speed that ignores the cap isn't?

FalconPawwwwnchMay 31, 20172 votes

Attack speed isn't universally useful

QuephaMay 31, 20171 votes

Neither is AD so...

FalconPawwwwnchMay 31, 20172 votes

Every champion that uses fervor of battle has ad ratios or autoattacks lol

Whereas attack speed is useless on a lot of current fervor champions like Riven and renekton

QuephaMay 31, 20171 votes

You realize the keystone rune system is to allow for MORE possible keystone options? There's going to be a good one for AD casters and it will need to be about as powerful for them as 60% attack speed is for champions like Kog'maw and Vayne.

ZelorxonMay 31, 20171 votes

Well technically isn't free since all the AD items have lost 10-20 ad, the last whisper works on bonus armor and the only ones that get extra damage from it like darius or renekton are just balanced since it allows them to not become irrelevant once lane phase is over.