Thinking of getting Graves, how is he??

Arch Mage Magnus··1 votes·669 views

Looking to buy a new ADC at the moment. I don't ADC much, but when I do its usually Varus or Twitch. After Twiches nerfs awhile back I stopped using him. Varus really doesn't fit my playstyle, and with no mobility, I feel he is a lack luster ADC in this meta.

In comparison to the higher ranked ADC's (Lucian, Trist, Jinx, Cait) how does Graves stand? I rarely ever see him played so it's very hard to judge what he is capable of.

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Knight SoIaire 1 votes

graves is fine

Hoi Im Temmo1 votes

There is nothing wrong with Graves as an ADC. His problem comes with his ranges. See, has auto range is one of the shorter ones (more in line with mages than other marksman) His abilities are - Q: The three shots. W: The the smoke launcher E: The Dash R: The massive aoe line.

So, with that in mind, pros and cons.

Cons: Short Range, only one 'real' damage ability, that needs you to be close to the target. A smoke launcher, that to be honest, doesn't really do anything, except prep for ganks or escapes....and vigilant pings for the sight blocked enemy thwart this. The Dash is NICE - but he needs it to engage, due to his range....so he generally doesn't have an escape.

Pros: MASSIVE damage with that Q, if you can get the damage items. The smoke launcher does get people to do stupid things in team fights, and that's pretty funny. Technically, he is a mobile champion. His ult, with just a few items, can auto-win team-fights.

So overall, Graves is strong. But Champions like Lucian, Tristanta, Kog Maw, and Cait (most of the current meta) roll him with their range/better mobility/both. Seeing as these are the current meta (practically) it is fairly risky to play him. Worse, the Carry's he does best against dont see much play (some people have dependencies with me over if Lucian is a counter, but in general, Lucian seems to win that lane)

Squirvizard1 votes

Graves is a good ADC, slightly tankier than the other ADC's, and has a ton of AoE burst (also good for single target) when you combine his Q and Ult.

Skia Asteri1 votes

The main problem for Graves is he is Lucian with shorter range and takes longer to get his dash back.

That said, when Graves is carrying he carries really hard because he is hard to kill once his passive is stacked.

Sailor Mint1 votes

He's perfectly fine.

warpenguin5551 votes

If graves gets ahead gg. I disconnected 3 times in 1 game and still carried as him

TeemoHunter13371 votes

graves is basically early game.

u either win early game and destroy them and win fast.

or u do no damage come late game.

and he has huge mana costs.

Malkmus7101 votes

I play Graves when I'm forced into ADC, and quite honestly he's fun except for the incredibly limiting mana issue. I'm often guilty of buying mana pots with Graves instead of health pots/wards, but other than that he's a decent character. That smoke bomb is a tad on the useless side (it took me a month to realize it even did damage...)

Creamy Seaman1 votes

Play Graves if you ever see Lucian Racist. But it works.

ComannderShepard1 votes

He has a lot of burst and good early game power. He has mana issues but I like to go essence reaver on him so that fixes the problem for me. I think his smoke bomb is really underrated, its a pretty powerful utility spell when used right; kind of like a really tiny nocturne ult.

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