Reminder, that every player has wards - not just support

Arch Mage Magnus·Dec 15, 2014·127 votes·6,560 views

If you want to blame me, the support, because Baron, Dragon, and lanes are all not warded and the enemy team takes one, please take the stick out of your ass. Although I purchased a sightstone, that only allows 3 wards on the entire map at one time. Riot has graciously allowed YOU to also buy wards if you feel it's necessary to how you play. If they backdoored a baron while I was bot with my ADC securing towers and inhibs, do not blame me. You are the jungle, you roam more than anyone, place a few wards. You are mid, make sure your side lines are well protected, it's not my job to make sure you don't get ganked. Same goes for top. STOP blaming supports for not having the whole damn map warded.

112 Comments

FyshinaTuxDec 15, 201433 votes

On another note, if you're ADC is ahead, and you tell him to play passively while you go ward one of those objectives (like drake), and he dies because he goes in 1v2... that... that REALLY gets upsetting, moreso I would say than the complaints about wards.

Probably just because the bickering always happens so it gets tuned out, idk.

NielarkenDec 15, 201423 votes

Soraka "Sit back dragon is comming up in 17sec im going to ward it" -An ally has been slain Ezreal "Soraka stop warding you left me to die"

FyshinaTuxDec 16, 201412 votes

Ironically enough, with Raka's passive (that insane MS when running toward a low health teammate), she likely could have saved him... >.>

Just kidding, stop doing this ADCs... it's aggravating as all shit.

NarasimhaDec 16, 20147 votes

PSA: A MS increase does not let Raka teleport to the target in question.

FyshinaTuxDec 16, 20143 votes

Hence why I said "just kidding" and "stop doing this ADCs"... >.>

NarasimhaDec 16, 20146 votes

I coulda sworn that wasn't there when I posted. Ah well, maybe I'm going crazier.

FyshinaTuxDec 16, 20143 votes

;)

No worries mate, shat happens

Sirin GioroDec 16, 20146 votes

{quoted}

On another note, if you're ADC is ahead, and you tell him to play passively while you go ward one of those objectives (like drake), and he dies because he goes in 1v2... that... that REALLY gets upsetting, moreso I would say than the complaints about wards.

Probably just because the bickering always happens so it gets tuned out, idk.

After telling my ADC about "brb warding" they run into enemy bot and dies. And proceeded to rage at me "for not being there". ROFL SUPPORT LYFE MAN

AlljoyDec 15, 201420 votes

It's like they expect us to have the minimap lit up like a bloody Christmas tree with three greens and a pink to our names.

SecretAgentHulkDec 16, 201416 votes

\\\\ item 2043 \\\\ item 2044 \\\\ Leona

suport cristmas tree

ABlueQuakerDec 16, 20144 votes

{quoted}

It's like they expect us to have the minimap lit up like a bloody Christmas tree with three greens and a pink to our names.

On this note, I hate it when I have the whole lower enemy jungle lit up light a christmas tree and my team blindly runs into the top side for a single kill and gets 5v3/4ed.

Stars ShaperDec 15, 201413 votes

I usually place more wards as adc then most of supports I meet.

FroppiDec 15, 201412 votes

As a support main, I thank you for this. >.

Tapu FiniDec 15, 201410 votes

Ugh. Uuuuuugh, this was my last match. I placed 54 wards over the course of a 60 minute ranked game. Next closest on my side was our top, at 17, then the mid at 10, and adc/jungle at 5 a piece.

How do you only place 5 wards in 60 minutes? Even if you sell your trinket, you should be buying a ward every back, or at least every other back, not to mention vision ward upkeep. It was an issue, too. We lost three barons and two drags because we had no vision, and I couldn't cover all of that, plus keep vision so they wouldn't get ganked.

HeadHonchkrowDec 15, 20143 votes

This is my every match :'(

RyuPhalianDec 15, 20143 votes

{quoted} Ugh. Uuuuuugh, this was my last match. I placed 54 wards over the course of a 60 minute ranked game. Next closest on my side was our top, at 17, then the mid at 10, and adc/jungle at 5 a piece.

How do you only place 5 wards in 60 minutes? Even if you sell your trinket, you should be buying a ward every back, or at least every other back, not to mention vision ward upkeep. It was an issue, too. We lost three barons and two drags because we had no vision, and I couldn't cover all of that, plus keep vision so they wouldn't get ganked.

Because Junglers and Supports are on a tight budget and need to also deny the enemy vision. Also the new jungle allows junglers to gain some pseudo-wards so we don't have to spend so much cash such as the Wolf spirit wards Blue (which means in an hour game that's about 30 wards saved right there) and the Scuttle Crab shrines give sight to help ward Dragon and Baron (another 20 wards saved). I am not saying a jungler shouldn't buy any but never expect a Jungler to ward everywhere as we are barely scraping by as it is in terms of gold. So bottom line, junglers have to be hurt more and payed less while expected to ward and gank everywhere.

Tapu FiniDec 15, 201411 votes

One ward per 12 minutes is not cutting it. If you really value three pots more than knowing where the enemy is when someone pings MIA, you really deserve dying to a gank. The crabs are super short duration, and can be walked by without being seen. Unless you're in the enemy jungle smiting wolves, vision of your jungle isn't doing much good during the laning phase, and certainly not for a push.

There is no viable excuse to not ward. You're providing everyone on your team with enemy locations, and by extension, safety. Clear an extra camp, buy a ward when you back, and help your team. It's not season three any more, supports can't light the whole map up alone.

And yeah, considering supports are generally the lowest income in most matches, take the 75 gold and buy the ward. Hell, you could even spring for a sightstone if you really want to be cost conscious. It's not reserved for supports and lee sin you know.

Valhalla RisingDec 15, 20148 votes

my biggest beef is non-supports who don't buy wards.. i hate it i hate it i hate it.

HATRED...

KeevalroyDec 15, 201413 votes

Sometimes it doesn't matter if they ward or not. They'll only provide their teammates with a view of the inevitable double kill that's coming straight down the river to them. No matter how many times you ping or spam chat to look out, it's like yelling at a horror movie. The actors won't hear you, and neither will your bot lane.

--Tales from Low Elo

XonraDec 15, 20143 votes

{quoted} Sometimes it doesn't matter if they ward or not. They'll only provide their teammates with a view of the inevitable double kill that's coming straight down the river to them. No matter how many times you ping or spam chat to look out, it's like yelling at a horror movie. The actors won't hear you, and neither will your bot lane.

--Tales from Low Elo

I think this is more the issue right here.

I've had the enemy blue warded, my jungler runs to "counter jungle" dies as I can SEE the mid and jungler running right at him., then starts yelling either "why did no one help me" or "where did they come from?" lol

It is a map awareness issue that even removing the fog of war wouldn't fix for some players.

KeevalroyDec 15, 20147 votes

Use wardscore to see how well you're doing for the roles you play. http://wardscore.loltools.net/

killd0zerDec 15, 20141 votes

My warding is: Mediocre

32%

:^) stop me noobs

KwangoTangoDec 15, 20141 votes

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killd0zerDec 15, 20147 votes

So combined we're the perfect player :^)

AicleDec 15, 20142 votes

LOL My warding is Excessive.

91%

KeevalroyDec 15, 20142 votes

{quoted} LOL My warding is Excessive.

91%

Good, now for a challenge...beat lustboy. http://wardscore.loltools.net/?name=tsm%20lustboy&region=na

VITEV009Dec 15, 20142 votes

I have a 96% better than most players

AbodyHUN666Dec 16, 20147 votes

I just love it when my adc doesn't place his trinket. Seriously it's not wine, it won't get better with age.

KiurcherDec 16, 20146 votes

This is absurd. What are these things you call wards... If I follow the LOL community you the support MUST ward entire map from top to bottom at all times otherwise you are not doing your job as support. So if you are bottom and top dies from you not placing a ward top it is your fault. In fact, when the game ends you will be reported for not doing this job correctly. So be warned... if you are not Merlin the great sorcerer. You shouldn't go support.

ChikTikka QuickDec 15, 20144 votes

Oh snap, i came in here thinking you were my main support partner ArchMagnus!!

you do have a good point, there should be at least 3 pinks on map at any given time at the minimum+^_^+ try and have your ADC drop a pink in the bush behind bot turret, if they won't do anything else!

Sadistic CheeseDec 15, 20144 votes

Butbutbut...they need that gold for their Trinity Force Gangplank Top! Grand Sensei Dyrus said it was best build so I must build it EVERY SINGLE GAME despite being ganked every thirty seconds!

Honestly at this point the warding issue is such a pain that I'd take a Support Tree Mastery that doubles the limit, if only just for greens. C'mon, Riot. If the rest of my team refuses to do it, can I at least get the tools I need to ensure proper coverage? God knows if they even know which end of the ward to stick in the ground, let alone where to put it....

I'm still not going top just to ward your riverbush, though. You're on your own for that. I don't mind lighting up dragon, bot-river, and even the enemy jungle a little, but going past mid is really pushing it, particularly when dragon is even MORE valuable than before.

Hyrum GraffDec 15, 20144 votes

This is why I prefer to play mid over support. Because that way I know there will be at least two members of my team who are warding.

NielarkenDec 15, 20144 votes

Ive had people tell me that they didnt have to buy wards because I have a sight stone im no pro player but this is a problem.

BallisticMouseDec 15, 20143 votes

I blame the support when it doesn't buy a Sightstone or wards all game.

ZyyyZDec 15, 20143 votes

Forget asking people to buy wards. If you have the yellow trinket for the entirety of a 40 minutes games. What excuse do you have for placing only 5 wards? There is nothing that pissed me off more than people refusing to place their FREE yellow trinket. Every time I check match history and see people with less than 10 ward placed while having yellow trinket for the entire game, I just.... summoner 3

FyshinaTuxDec 16, 20143 votes

Honestly, yellow trinket is such trash after the 10ish minute mark anyway... better to get red trinket in most cases and deny vision from the enemy in key spots.

BADxW0LFDec 16, 20142 votes

...or upgrade it. Pretty sure that's the reason they made the trinkets upgradeable. You have 2 options once you reach level 9.

Leaf of the lakeDec 16, 20142 votes

A lot of players use it as an emergency "I need vision NOW" option. Especially ADCs that don't go blue trinket, since if they can't see into the bush that someone just dived into, they can't attack them. You also have to consider the shorter duration of trinket wards, that it isn't necessarily helpful or even desirable to use them every time they're off CD. In general, if I see a non-support placed more than a dozen wards in a game, that's probably a lot.

HetchyDec 16, 20143 votes

I was recently blamed for the enemy team getting the dragon...I inched over there to ward, and all 5 enemies caught me.

"Why wasn't it warded? Why were you caught?" - Jungler

"Because no one else will ward. That's what I was there to do. Why aren't you on top of dragon as the jungler?"

"Because that's your job." - Jungler

We mustn't get caught out warding, I know, but stop pretending it isn't your fault when my measly 3 (probably fewer since the enemy wisely denies vision) wards don't cut it.

Edit: And ADC was just free-farming after lane opponents clearly went to Dragon...I pinged...and pinged. Good LORD!

ArcaneArcher89Dec 15, 20142 votes

As someone who mains support, I have to agree with this. Everyone should buy wards, everyone should place wards. However, nothing makes me angrier than when I play a different lane and see a sightless support. Had a game where a teemo support only placed 1 ward in 10 minutes. I actually had to tell them to place vision on dragon. They were level 8 and hadn't placed any mushrooms at objectives(brush, dragon). They didn't buy a sightstone until after 23 minutes.

TheRainInSpainDec 15, 20142 votes

As a Teemo support main, this saddens me greatly. I always have 2-3 wards deployed, along with the pink, and mana almost completely drained from dropping shrooms everywhere. I consider it a bad game if I can't make this happen. The whole point of Teemo is poisons, blind, and SHROOMS.

I don't buy a Sightstone, ever, either. If I need extra wards NAOW, I upgrade the trinket, which is something I rarely see happen with other players.

FyshinaTuxDec 16, 20144 votes

ok, I don't care who you're playing... champion is irrelevant... if you're playing support, you better damn well believe you need to buy a sightstone. I don't give a rat's arse if that's the ONLY support item you buy, you better have one if you're playing "support", shrooms or no shrooms...

Tentacle LoveDec 15, 20142 votes

Also, if you go mid, be sure to grab a ward specifically for the enemy jungle's chickens. It will be removed almost instantly if they smite them, but it will save one other ward around the map, guaranteed.

Dead WifeDec 15, 20142 votes

support starting items item 2043 , item 2044 and a item 3341 and whatever i can afford to get after that. then first back hopefully been doing well enouph to get the first sightstone.. Its stressful being support but I love it Yes I can't ward everywhere!, But damn it I try my best to keep the key spots warded depending on where we are at in the game. This post is great :D

Ariel the CruelDec 16, 20146 votes

But damn it I try my best to keep the key spots warded ...

I noticed you warded dragon, enemy blue, and baron. However, I still can't see our blue, either red, either tribush, anywhere in the enemy base, or the back of my head.

This is clearly your fault, and no one else's.

NaluanaDec 16, 20142 votes

What's really sad is when your adc places a single ward in a 56 minute game... without upgrading the trinket or replacing it with scrying orb. sigh

KalytronDec 16, 20142 votes

I just never understood the difficulty in dropping your trinket ward while you're roaming around. Trying to somewhere and gank? Ward your escape path on your way in. Use the trinket on cool down and you'll save yourself plenty of grief.

What gets me the most is later on in the game, when you're at that everything is on fire stage, pushed to your base - enemy team has your jungle ( because no one warded it and one person can only have 3 out at a time ) - and someone brilliant speaks up, "(SUPPORT) why isn't Baron warded?" Because I'm going to casually stroll on over and ward it while they have our jungle. Last I checked they had a time limit. And they're the same people who lose their minds when you do go to ward it and die, something about, "stop getting caught out." You JUST complained about it being un-warded.

Rarely there's a team member who gets it, and will go with me as support to ward in dangerous territory. I don't get where this whole blaming support thing comes into play. They are literally there just to support your team - to help you - and it's 1v4. So drop your trinket on CD. Ward your escape paths or if you counter jungle. Never back if it's off CD. Drop it. Anywhere but under your own tower/in your own base will do. By the time you recall, heal/buy + walk back to wherever it is you wanted to go, it should be close to being off CD again.

And the teams that seem to do the best with river control are the teams who don't leave one person to solo scuttles. They just take a while to kill early on - help your team out. Make an effort to kill it on respawn. It doesn't take a lot of time with 2 people and you can give the gold to whomever is a little behind for time spent. It helps out a lot.

OfallingDec 16, 20142 votes

It is tragic how often I see this. It's almost the whole point of the ward changes that're now quite old - making it ridiculous and impossible for supports to ward everything - and yet people don't really realize it enough. Sadness.