... as I die within 2 seconds on Poppy with 338 armor (78%), Bond of Stone (3%) and Tabi passive (a combined 91% damage reduction) and 3.7k health against a FULL AD TEAM. Yep. That's balance.
Oh wait, you mean 880 damage in a single Kha'zix Q is 9% of the total damage? What is he doing, 8000 damage in one attack?
And tank Yasuo autos for 6000 an auto?
And Zed does 5000 every ability?
Okay.
SrbLud7 votesYou do know your match history is public right?
6-6-16
Not even close to that armor you were stating.
14-3-6
You only had 100 CS in 35 minutes. You only placed 2 wards the whole game. Does full AD team include an AP Shaco??? hmmmm... Stop throwing numbers around and outright lying.
Niyumi2 votesUh, you do know that I was support, right? CS is irrelevant. You do also know that Poppy passively gains 15% extra armor, increased to 30% when below 40% health, right?
I need to figure out how to record my games. Show you the fucked up bullshit that goes on, and make you justify it.
SrbLud2 votesUh, you do know that I was support, right? CS is irrelevant. You do also know that Poppy passively gains 15% extra armor, increased to 30% when below 40% health, right?
I need to figure out how to record my games. Show you the fucked up bullshit that goes on, and make you justify it.
I was just waiting for you to bring that up. Even with passive proc not even close to 338. Why take so much CS if you were a support? I know it's sweet to get it but give it to your carry. Look at your items and then look at kha. He countered you straight up. Nightfall proc with so much lifesteal....No way poppy can take that...
Niyumi2 votes(Base armor + runes + masteries in Resolve + items) * 1.15 (or 1.30) + 13% flat reduction from Tabi and Bond. Easily get that high.
And it wasn't the lifesteal or the Duskblade. He just straight up two shot me. As did Zed. Yasuo took a little longer, but did a quarter of my health every Q + Auto.
WoonStruck1 votesEvery reduction is multiplicative. Not additive like you're assuming.
In addition, Tabi's 10% reduction only works against autos.
Niyumi1 votesI was adding up the total armor, then multiplying by Poppy's passive, getting a new total armor amount. Then I took that damage reduction and factored in the flat 3% from bond and the flat 10% reduction from Tabi (for autos anyway).
From Kha's Q, I was taking 81% less damage (armor and Bond reductions), meaning he was doing 19% damage to me. Take away 20 armor (Duskblade), I'd probably be taking 79% less damage, which means he'd be doing 21% damage. If 880 is something that is hitting for only 21%... good fucking God.
He would be hitting for 4.2k with each Q (before mitigation), which is entirely unreasonable. So, either Riot lies about armor doing anything, or Kha hits for nearly four and a half thousand with each Q. Which do you think is true? ^^
Void Nargacuga1 votesReplay.gg exists for a reason!
BladeSteel2 votesreplay.gg
Woodakoodashooda6 votesTry collecting your thoughts before putting them into words.
franticFurball2 votesIf you run in 1v5 no amount of tankyness will save you.
Also, there is that thing called "Armor-Pen".
Niyumi1 votes338 - 20 = 318, which is still a shit load of armor.
franticFurball1 votesI don't know what you think how many armor reducing effects and items there are in this game, but you might wanna do a bit of research in that area.
There is % armor reduce. There is flat ArmPen. There is debuffing % armor reduce. Just because you mentioned Yasuo: His ult allows him to ignore most of your armor.
And btw. your above numbers are not only unrealistic, they are absurd. There is no scenario where a Yasuo does 6000dmg, or a Zed 5000. Think about what you did wrong in your game, instead of blaming fake numbers.
Niyumi1 votesNo, I know they're absurd. But my game was telling me that I was taking less than 9% of normal damage from physical damage (from autos. 19% from abilities). So, if we do some math there, they were literally hitting in the thousands before mitigation. Of course, that's not true, so armor just doesn't really do what Rito tells us it does.
franticFurball3 votesSo, if we do some math there...
...and ignore how armor penetration works, and ignore how the damage reduction by armor is calculated in the game, and ignore the entirety of non-flat ArmPen effects in the game...
...then yes, we arrive at some fantasy numbers that we can ignore.
BladeSteel1 votesBtw...usually kha has more armor pen than you think, taking armor pen in runes and masteries. Easily can get 50+ armor pen w/ just a ghostblade.
BIackfox1 votes
The Great Divide1 votesYou're poppy: you're infinitely more frustrating, because I at least can attempt to kill the squishy ad's killing me...