I Hate Rylais

Woodakoodashooda··13 votes·943 views

It grants an additional unfair advantage to ranged champions against melee champions. You can go 5 and 0 in lane against a mage as any given melee champ, but soon as they get this item, you're pretty much screwed. The perma slow for DoT champs is just ridiculous.

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Theorchero6 votes

Cassiopeia item 3116

Makes me wish cass could just poison herself instead.

Rossendale5 votes

Don't worry OP, the Gameplay Mage Mains Brigade will be here soon to bombard you with downvotes whilst viciously arguing why mages running around with 3kHP and slows on every single ability whilst not giving up any of their burst is completely fine.

Zero Skill Tank5 votes

whilst not giving up any of their burst

Damage, CDR or Stasis. To get 3k HP, you need to give up on at least 2 of them compared to ordinary full damage mage build. It doesn't seem so, because full damage mage builds became nearly non-existant in season 6 world of rampaging Zed's and Yasuo's, but damage tradeoff in HP builds is there.

And before you start whining further, I don't even play mages.

Maximum Morde1 votes

When people stop getting right clicked for more damage than a spell does, you can talk.

[slayer-jinx-wink]

Penns2 votes

What I dont really understand is why some mages can get around 3k HP and still end up with the same amount of ap as a glass cannon mage, or even more item 3070

MunchCrunchLunch2 votes

Brand the fire mage can slow you 100 times more than this bitch Lissandra

3tyson2 votes

Melee bruisers can get an even more dangerouse perma slow

Swiftstrike42 votes

The item is going to be addressed in preseason, riot at the moment, knows that it has been too strong since the itemization changes at the mid-season mage update.

It is annoying being constantly slowed, but my central issue with it is that it is just a great item at the moment for any mage. There are very few mages that do not benefit from having it, Lux is probably the only one that I can think of at the moment that does not significantly benefit from the item.

As a melee top laner it is very frustrating dealing with item 3022 and item 3116 on a team, especially if they have a lot of hard CC already. I think it should slow, but the potency of the slow, the amount of ability power it grants for its cost, and the tankyness of the item are all problematic. My guess is that riot will decrease the slows duration and lower the ability power a bit to make it more inline with other mage items.

Zykklon B1 votes

Singed I need to be near them to apply mine

legionnaire991 votes

i think the thing is there 2 champs that need it Mordekaiser Singed

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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i think the thing is there 2 champs that need it Mordekaiser Singed

tbh i dont think singed actually needs it. he has been viable without rylais in the past. before they changed its passive he sometimes used to buy it for the stats when he did, but it was a nieche item for him and he never relied on its slows.

either way, the item is either a crutch for undertuned champion kits, or its completely batshit broken and unfair on other champions.

i hope riot realizes that they shouldnt nerf the stats, but its passive. which is the actual problematic part.

Astôlfo1 votes

Um, Singed needs it to prevent people from being able to chase him. lol And it's entirely core on Morde.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Um, Singed needs it to prevent people from being able to chase him. lol And it's entirely core on Morde.

getting chased is exactly what singed wants though, no?

singed didnt rely on rylais slow before the item was changed a year ago. he was fine back then.

Astôlfo1 votes

Yes, the whole point is he can keep them slowed while they're trying to chase him so they can't actually grab him.

3tyson1 votes

As soon as a melee bruiser gets frozen mallot like reksai all he needs to do is tunnel up to a target nock him up aa him and his squeeshy ass cant move and dies

Umbre0n1 votes

Do you also hate frozen mallet? Cause its the AD version and does the same thing essentially plus makes you tankier.

Woodakoodashooda1 votes

Frozen Mallet requires you to constantly attack to maintain its passive. Its effectiveness is also reduced for ranged champions. On top of which it received a recent nerf to its damage to deal with its recent amount of abuse.

There are severe differences between the two items and each are tailored to entirely different styles of champions.

They do not do "the same thing".

BladeSteel2 votes

and rylais requires you to constantly land abliites.

SwiftKitten881 votes

seesh first everyone complains about "mobility creep" now people are complaining about slows...

rylias is fine. a few champs have skills that are currently working with it that shouldn't, but for the VAST majority of champs its balanced

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