Are you even aware how cancerous Zhonya is?

PiVoRx··3 votes·833 views

Theres nothing more frustrating than someone surviving with 1% with Zhonya and then escaping alive cause it give enough time for team mates to help or cds to recover. Zhonya destroys any team fight flow and if one side has 2 or more then other is just fucked. WHY DA FUCK THIS ITEM HAS ONLY 90 SEC CD? IT SHOULD HAVE SAME AS GA, MOST BROKEN ITEM IN THE GAME.

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dmoney1011 votes

Or just time your spells to kill them as they come out of zhonyas or get this dont put yourself that out of position when you have no oh shit button.

Blastumz1 votes

man if only they 3k gold into an item that they buy almost entirely for the active

moron

AtheosisX1 votes

It's funny seeing the downvotes when it's pretty obvious that the item is too good, seeing as nearly every AP champ buys it. The low cooldown and the long duration of the effect does have a distorting effect on the game in my opinion. I wouldn't say it's cancerous, but it really does offer too much utility. I think a nerf to it's effect duration or the cooldown would be completely justified.

Radnar the bold1 votes

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It's funny seeing the downvotes when it's pretty obvious that the item is too good, seeing as nearly every AP champ buys it. The low cooldown and the long duration of the effect does have a distorting effect on the game in my opinion. I wouldn't say it's cancerous, but it really does offer too much utility. I think a nerf to it's effect duration or the cooldown would be completely justified.

why not nerf ludens echo since everyone buys it? why not nerf rabadons if every ap buys it? why not nerf boots? just because everyone gets an item doesnt qualify it as "OP". alot of APs are squishy and are focsued in teamfights, this items keep them alive. Ive played as ziggs and have had a vi focus me the whole game and my zhonyas saved me from her ult and her Q.

PiVoRx1 votes

ADCs are also focused in team fights but they dont have item with kayle ult that also provides massive damage boost. Instead if they have issue with surviving, adcs have to enjoy themselfs with banshee, GA, or omen that are PURE DEFENSIVE ITEMS.

How about we nerf Zhonya and teach AP champs to bulid defensive items cause right now they dont even need to consider buying one if they have one item that covers everything.

AtheosisX1 votes

Luden's Echo needs a nerf too. You are right. Good call.

McAllister1 votes

But you can fail to use Zhonya's. GA is guaranteed. It should have a longer CD, yeah, but not that long.

Centuros1 votes

Around 50% of the times I see it used, it literally just delays their death for 1.5 seconds, but does not change the outcome at all.

But then, that happens with GA, too.

Cindikle1 votes

Ever play an immobile squishy mage vs a team with a lot of burst/mobility?

Hourglass has it's place for a reason.

It if was a strong as you are claiming then ADC's would get it over GA because of the CD and some ADC's can use the AP. The fact this does not happen should be enough proof that it's not a broken item.

What's fair about getting an ADC near dead only to have them use BotRK to take 15% of my Hp away and heal themeslves with it? What's fair about a tank being able to gain a 60% speed boost from an item to engage on me when I position right? What's fair about a melee AD Being able to get a 10s CD 60% AD AoE that also lifesteals? What's fair about an AP being able to use a spell and gain 50% of their AP added to their basic attack?

League has plenty of powerful items that can define a champion. But that doesn't make it OP.

PiVoRx1 votes

Totally fair since those are not best defensive items in the game with huge damage boost, and doesent allow to dodge abilities like Zhonya do.

Cindikle1 votes

Hydra has a defensive boost in lifesteal sustain.

Scimitar is overall the AD equivalent of hourglass. Although it's cost would use some help. Removing some of the strongest abilities in the game that Hourglass only delays.

The example I gave BotRK was a defensive one. Taking 15% Hp off a tank and healing yourself is a quite a bit if you don't build HP. Topped off with a MS buff/slow.

Hourlgass allows you to avoid attacks if timed right and maybe your team can save you form a sticky spot. That mostly relies on the team being there to help you. Still have to time the item right. If you're CC'd you can't even use it.

It's a great but situational item. Reason it's gotten so much is that most games are lost from your own mistakes. Higher MMR/pro players get it so often for this reason. The high AP(which got nerfed) is there to keep it's cost high. Unless you want it available to a wider champion pool.

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