Remember: you're not forced to pick an ADC into ZIGGS
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How tf does Darius beat Ziggs when even ADCs can't deal with Ziggs and they have range and still get poked down and pushed in.
because he can waveclear at lvl 1 with
, and since blitzcrank have one too it makes him able to deal with ziggs since they have sustain
then at lvl 3 blitz can rush with his W and knock him up with E, then darius follows up
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because he can waveclear at lvl 1 with
, and since blitzcrank have one too it makes him able to deal with ziggs since they have sustain
then at lvl 3 blitz can rush with his W and knock him up with E, then darius follows up
yeah in a world in which he was alone and people actually knew how to play blitz and the enemy support was godawful. Darius does nothing against Ziggs, you are essentially hoping you get a good blitz player and a retarded Ziggs player
i don't see how i'm hoping that
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i don't see how i'm hoping that
that is pretty much what you are hoping if you think that Darius and Blitz is a free win against Ziggs and whatever his support is
that is pretty much what you are hoping if you think that Darius and Blitz is a free win against Ziggs and whatever his support is
Isn't that kind of what everyone hopes for when playing as, with, and against anyone?
You will pretty much always hope that your teammates are good and your opponents are at least not as good. ... unless you're a masochist or something.
Just Darius alone is a free win.
Also they both have pulls.
Grab Ziggs or his support and delete them and the lane is yours.
I think the Ziggs "ADC" fad is healthy. I would honestly like to see more mages move into the bottom lane, not necessarily because they are better than ADCs but because it mixes the game up.
What annoys me is that someone could have been spamming the boards about Ziggs bot being OP for months and they would have downvoted into the dirt. But once it gets spotted in Korea, it's Meta.
What type of bud are they using on zigs?