Everytime Vayne was buffed she became gamebreaking and was nerfed

Vayne has plot armor just like any other anime main character. People should realize this by now

im a caitlyn main.. There are games where i take vayne to 0-5... Ill be 5-0 and still get eaten by her i understand her expertise is 1v1 blah and range but.. Theres a limit to how stupid your champ can be when behind

A character with good chasing that has decent self peel, can burst squishies and is best in class at killing tanks.

What could possibly go wrong.

Never gonna happen

Her, Lee Sin, Riven, etc make too much money for Riot to give them anything but small nerfs here and there

Remember when both Lee and Riven had reworked planned out and then both were reverted because of fanbase outcry? same shit would happen to vayne lmao

you'd think Riot would learn not to buff her but of course they still do it

The problem is, Vayne isn't in a bad spot when they buff her. She's always fine, then they'll go and buff her for no reason other than "her lane bullies" and "not seeing enough play." It's a vicious cycle with Riot: buff something that isn't in need of buffs but isn't seeing enough plays.

THats a pretty terrible binary example, but oh well.

The reason shes OP every time she gets buffed is because they over do it. They buffed the SHIT out of vayne when they buffed her instead of just giving her a small buff and being fine with it.

I always wondered why they don't hit her mana costs or her cds instead of her damage numbers. she can kill someone, fine, but she has to choose when to go in more carefully

She suffers from an identity crisis right now.

Vayne's "thing" -- the thing everyone thinks about when you mention the champion -- is her Silver Bolts. % Max HP True Damage every third hit. The tankbuster passive, the ability that can't be itemized against because it's true damage that scales off the HP you try to build.

Yet she doesn't build based on her "thing". She actually builds completely opposite. Instead of stacking % HP damage and attack speed to deal a shit ton of mixed and true damage to fight tanks, she's stacking AD and Crit, not building % HP damage items, and killing squishies instead of fighting the tanks.

A proper Vayne rework needs to turn her (back) into a tankbuster champion who specializes in killing tanks that stack armor and health.

Innate -- Silver Bolts: Vayne's basic attacks and Condemns mark her target with Silver Bolts for 3 seconds, stacking up to 5 times. Attacking a new enemy cleanses the previous target of all Silver Bolts.

The fifth stack consumes all stacks of Silver Bolts to deal 6% (+0.33% per level) of the target's maximum health as true damage.

When Vayne deals true damage to an enemy, they suffer Silver Poisoning for 10 seconds afterwards.

Vayne's auto attacks and Condemns cannot critically strike. When she would critically strike, she instead applies an extra stack of Silver Bolts to the target.

Q -- Tumble: Vayne quickly rolls towards the cursor's location, causing her next basic attack to apply an extra stacks of Silver Bolts. Tumble resets Vayne's auto attack timer.

Vayne takes 15% less damage from the next damaging attack she suffers within 1 second of using Tumble. This damage reduction does not affect damage over time effects, nor will they consume the buff.

W -- Night Hunter:

Passive: Vayne gains an extra 30 movement speed when moving towards enemies afflicted with Silver Poisoning.

Active: Vayne gains 30%/35%/40%/45%/50% Attack Speed for 3 seconds.

E -- Condemn: Vayne fires a heavy bolt at the target unit, dealing 45/80/115/150/185 (+40% Total AD) physical damage and knocking them back. If the target is knocked into a wall, they take the same damage again and are stunned for 1.5 seconds. The extra damage from striking a wall is NOT considered to be a critical strike.

(On live, Condemn stun into walls is considered a crit, so crit damage multipliers affect it.)

R -- Final Hour: Vayne applies Silver Poisoning to all enemy units within 1200 range. Additionally, she gains triple benefit from her Night Hunter speed bonus and deals 1%/2%/3% of maximum health on hit for 8/10/12 seconds.

The goal of such a rework is to stop her from assassinating squishies and shift her to instead fight and shred the tanks. She would be a good pick into a tanky team and a bad pick into a high-damage squishy team.

1. By swapping the passive and W, Vayne gains an extra button to push and needs to know when to push it.

2. By making critical strikes apply an extra stack of Silver Bolts instead of dealing extra damage, and making Tumble apply a second stack as well, I have shifted Vayne away from building Infinity Edge. A proper Vayne should now build and stack Zeal items. The changes remove her ability to burst down squishy targets in favor of helping her kill tanks.

3. The extra applications of the passive on crit required me to bump the number of stacks to proc up to 5.

4. I removed the AD bonus from her ultimate, replacing it with on-hit % max HP magic damage and putting an AS steroid on her W. This makes her more effective against tanks and less effective against squishies.

5. I made Night Hunter more situational, forcing Vayne to either ult, Ignite (which would require running Ignite since most Vayne players go Heal/Flash), or land three hits before being able to use her ridiculous chase speed.

6. By replacing her invisibility with damage reduction, Vayne now can't skirt around teamfights the same way as before, but can fight tanks straight up instead.

That's how I felt about the Hecarim and Vi damage buffs in mid season 6 (and the impending Lucian buffs too).

last time ive said that, ive been downvoted.

vaynes design is unstable. shes either so bad early game that shes never relevant, or she can keep up with other ranged champions early on which causes her to powerspike way too soon way too many times, and completely take over and wreck games.

its a symptom that all marksmen share to some degree, but vayne is the most extreme.

i still think that the identity of marksmen as dps machines is misplaced, and that they shouldnt outscale other carry classes in this game. they already bring an insane amount of objective control to the game. theyre basically giving one class of champions not a single nieche, but multiple of the most important strategic roles in this game.

yes, "only" being incredibly great turret siegers, and fast at taking drakes and barons might not be as thrilling as also wrecking other champions lategame, but it is already pretty much the most powerful ability you can have.

Well, I think its a combination of her Q buffs and the stealth changes. Invisibility has no counter-play now so you can't focus her that effectively when she ults. Also, her Q does can almost one shot squishies.

No, she doesn't need a rework.

They just have a bad habit of overbuffing champions that only need small tweaks.

Any champion when strong gets nerfed wtf?

I think it mainly means that Riot is really bad at buffing Vayne. I mean, everytime they do, they don't buff what she is supposed to be (Tank Shredder) and instead buff something else.

tldr : adcs are balanced around eachother and the game is balanced around ad carries . even tho it should be the other way around as it is for other classes.