Syndra ulti should stop if she dies

doublelift fg·Jan 3, 2017·136 votes·5,198 views

how is it fair that you managed to burst a champ, but the champ had 2 or 3 spheres and pressed a point and click spell, dies, and then kills you?

please riot

140 Comments

SwiftKitten88Jan 4, 201725 votes

that's like asking for summoner 14 to stop if you die... or for Ezreal Jinx Draven Gangplank ulti to stop when u die.. as soon as it happens.. if its been cast your not going to stop it.

you want to know a REALLY easy way to stop it? item 3157 ... im tried of this Syndra is OP bullshit. or u can play champs like Fizz whi can just counter it with his troll poke Yasuo can windwall it.

oh but wait,, your an ADC who build no MR and can't build item 3157 .. " syndra can kill me with 1 button after setting up 2-3 sphere on the ground.. (which btw... ISN'T ONE BUTTON IF SHE NEEDS TO SET UP 2-3 SPHERES!!!)

omg the mage used her ULTIMATE to kill me before i could kill her with my 2-3 auto attacks.. seriously just stop..

NineTailedMysticJan 4, 20177 votes

I don't know if you can define missing every QWE as "setting up" and still one shotting a squishy because she has orbs on the ground now.

Also Zhonya's against an AP, ha yea right.

zaire90Jan 4, 20179 votes

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I don't know if you can define missing every QWE as "setting up" and still one shotting a squishy because she has orbs on the ground now.

Also Zhonya's against an AP, ha yea right.

lol ive seen whole teams buy zhonyas for a fed rengar

NineTailedMysticJan 4, 20172 votes

At least Zhonya's gives Armor vs an AD. Syndra can kill you off a stun before the stun ends to where you can Zhonya's.

DarkSunSovereignJan 4, 20175 votes

Actually no. Syndra player here. You have to press R at the exact same moment the stun lands, not half a seconds later; due to human reaction times + ping, you have to guess whether you'll land the stun, you. And if you somehow miss... that can be really, really bad.

Bishasaurus FlexJan 4, 20173 votes

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I don't know if you can define missing every QWE as "setting up" and still one shotting a squishy because she has orbs on the ground now.

Also Zhonya's against an AP, ha yea right.

I mean, her spawning Q's is setting up for a mass orb ult.

NineTailedMysticJan 4, 20172 votes

Reason #1 why people hate Syndra. She is legitimately rewarded for missing her spells due to how her ult works.

I could play perfectly avoiding all of her spells and die, or almost die depending on my MR if she gets her ult off.

RouwhorstJan 4, 20174 votes

She doesn't get rewarded for missing her spells... Tell me, what is the reward for missing them.

NineTailedMysticJan 4, 20173 votes

Empowering her ult? She can hit a grand total of 0 spells and still kill, or almost kill, a squishy with her R.

DarkSunSovereignJan 4, 20173 votes

Then she isn't rewarded for missing her spells. Then she's rewarded for using them, if at all. I rather think her opponent is punished for standing around for 10 seconds.

aspects1Jan 4, 20172 votes

*troll pole

ßurstJan 4, 20178 votes

Its really hard to press q twice right lol

DarkSunSovereignJan 4, 20173 votes

Just like it's really hard to right click her thrice lol

LauchmelderJan 4, 20171 votes

The fact that you got 4 upvotes and WingedWinter got downvoted just show how incredibily biased people are when talking about Syndra.

It's as hard for Syndra to kill you with Q + Q + R as it is for you to kill her with 3 rightclicks. Btw, item 3156 completely fks her ult because it's either a bugged item or the description is wrong. If she just ults you it will block the whole remaining damage after hitting 30% hp.

ßurstJan 4, 20172 votes

BUT you aren't looking at straight facts bro people complained when zed was strong killing adc's whenever his ult was ult but he had to hit 2 skillshots an auto and e before he could guarantee that youre dead syndra just clicks one button. BTW if their team is all ad and syndra is the only ap its not too practical to build a maw like let me see you build a maw against 2 tanks a janna and an adc its just not gonna happen AND THIS DOESNT JUST APPLY TO ADC ANY SQUISHY CLASS THIS COULD APPLY TOO, you could outplay and dodge all her other abilities is what your saying but as soon as she clicks that magic button means your dead?

LordGeovanniJan 4, 20173 votes

that would be nice if adcs were the only victims

All SkillzzJan 3, 201721 votes

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xWatersJan 3, 201719 votes

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if i kill annie somehow i dont need to be ass raped by a giant flaming bear.

Couldnt be more true. Punishes you for winning.

xeviJan 3, 201711 votes

It's an extra 50 gold

SmileInABoxJan 3, 201711 votes

Annie's bear is worth as much as the nexus after all.

DanjengJan 3, 20179 votes

And the Nexus is worth a win! Killing Bear = win

Freelo! Get your freelo here, nice and fresh!

OwynJan 4, 20172 votes

Well, Riot especially buffed that part of Annie - they gave Tibbers enrage, so if something happens to Syndra's spheres after her death is... gonna be a buff... like +200% dmg from spheres if you're dead. [slayer-jinx-wink]

OleandervineJan 3, 201721 votes

Syndra's ult is an immediate cast, not a channeled spell like Nunu's ult.

MinaZer0Jan 3, 201719 votes

Talon W, Ahri and Ekko Q's don't stop from returning after death which can land you some kills, I think Syndra is just being mentioned because her ult with 7 orbs, can 100-0 a target.

SulghunterJan 4, 20178 votes

The fact that the complainers allow Syndra players the time to actually set up a 7-orb ultimate says something about them, and it ain't good.

LordGeovanniJan 4, 20171 votes

they did have assassins that used to assinate squishy mages and adcs before they could do their job but they increased the time to kill on all the assassins and more than just syndra is around to just stop her the only way that you guarantee takeing out syndra is have one guy sacrifice themselves another dive and get cced and then another dive after that and kill her thats to say nothing of the other teammates he has so unless you sure you can do that and win the rest of the fight you just end up getting poked by her q spam with her team poke until she can ult anyone during which she will have 6-7 orbs up the whole time

Milodic MellodiJan 4, 20175 votes

Hello lord of continuous sentences.... You don't have to sacrifice champs, just zone her. Random strategies on paper are one thing, in actual practice throwing away two champs in a teamfight just to hopefully take Syndra out is another -- especially if there are better ways than sacrifice. Have your team position themselves in a way that she has to leave herself open to harass to be able to engage. Have your tank and/or mage engage her while your ADC assassinates the champ, then either throw out some CC to disengage the fight or push the lane. Simple as that. You can even have CC on Syndra before she dies, as long as your team can deal with the rest of theirs without that bit of CC. The thing about Syndra is she needs to set up and position her orbs to be successful, and setting up requires her to wait on her abilities' cooldowns. Pressure her, dodge her Q/W, try not to be directly across from her and her orb until she uses her E, and engage when she wastes her ult. Also, buy Magic Resist if you're that scared of her.

Bishasaurus FlexJan 3, 201718 votes

For everyone that doesn't know, every sphere thrown by Syndra's ult counts as one spell. So the 3rd orb launched procs thunderlord's, and banshee's veil absorbs only one of the spheres launched and allows the others to go through. There are many mechanics to her ultimate, she can't just "press R".

I promise you, Syndra CANNOT one shot you unless she spawns at least 2 additional spheres and you are a squishy ADC or sup. Even then, 5 orbs cannot eat through a full health ADC with hexdrinker.

If you want to prove me wrong, add me and we can create a custom

yoshi2790Jan 3, 20173 votes

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For everyone that doesn't know, every sphere thrown by Syndra's ult counts as one spell. So the 3rd orb launched procs thunderlord's

Not really, RIOT's techonology just isn't good enough yet, although they will be able to soon, Things as thunderlords proc because the game doesn't know where the damage comes from. It should stack once, but they lack technology.

Bishasaurus FlexJan 3, 20171 votes

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Not really, RIOT's techonology just isn't good enough yet, although they will be able to soon, Things as thunderlords proc because the game doesn't know where the damage comes from. It should stack once, but they lack technology.

Able to do what soon?

MirkhailJan 3, 20175 votes

The engine will be able to tell where the damage come from and so syndra ult would count a single ability for the purpose of thundelord instead of 3 or 7 different spells.

LordGeovanniJan 4, 20172 votes

am i missing something or are we pretending that syndra with 5 even 6 orbs is hard or uncommon and that if any of her obrs hit while being created thats a good 1/3 of your hp as a fighter assassin- adc and just enough for the ult to kill you and 1/5 of your hp if you are a tank mage or juggarnaut after her weq combo again her ult can kill you

KraDEsluP282Jan 3, 201715 votes

do people not build magic resistance anymore?

doublelift fgJan 3, 20175 votes

you think that magic resistance is going save you from syndra? good one, good one

i had item 3155 as jhin btw

KraDEsluP282Jan 3, 20172 votes

well i think it's not that bad that some champs are stronger than others, forces people to use teamwork to overcome such an obstacle. for example, using the support or tank to cc syndra and attacking her then when she's open or waiting for her to use her abilities on someone else. I highly doubt she just r'd you and you went from 100-0

Bishasaurus FlexJan 3, 20172 votes

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well i think it's not that bad that some champs are stronger than others, forces people to use teamwork to overcome such an obstacle. for example, using the support or tank to cc syndra and attacking her then when she's open or waiting for her to use her abilities on someone else. I highly doubt she just r'd you and you went from 100-0

They are lying. She needs at least 5 orbs to 1 shot a squishy.

LordGeovanniJan 4, 20173 votes

5 orbs isnt particualery hard to get nor does she have to hit any prior spells either that is strong enough in itself to have most of her hit do less damage than support poke. but no all of her spells his like a truck carrying a mini nuke and the cooldowns are spammable.

ForFoxSakesJan 3, 201722 votes

AKA "whaaaa item 3070 I'm a squishy immobile ADC with barely a resist item and died to a mage! nerf now"

SnowFallJan 4, 20173 votes

Let me ask you this question: What is the difference for ADC between no blue runes magic resist, 12 flat and 27 scaling? No difference, mages like syndra 100-0 you anyway

Bishasaurus FlexJan 4, 20175 votes

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Let me ask you this question: What is the difference for ADC between no blue runes magic resist, 12 flat and 27 scaling? No difference, mages like syndra 100-0 you anyway

This.

Vayne does it to everyone, Syndra can only do it to squishies. Lux can E+R and kill a squishy. Annie can burst you in less than 3 seconds. Hell, even Lissandra can chain CC and make you helplessly watch as she destroys you in 3-5 seconds.

I could go on, but we all know the point i'm trying to get across. There are many champions that can do what Syndra does. She may be able to do it better, but she needs to set up for it. If you do not build MR of any sort, you are to blame. If you foolishly stick around when Syndra is Q'ing up the place, you have disprespected her damage potential and will be punished.

Supreme Senpai69Jan 4, 20174 votes

Just to play the devil's advocate here, not that your point doesn't have merit, but Syndra is a bit different. Lux has to land two skillshots that are easy to dodge, Lissandra is telegraphed as her E tells you that she's coming in, Annie has to quite literally walk up to you and get within attack range, but Syndra's is point and click and her stun is pretty hard to dodge due to its surprising range.

DarkSunSovereignJan 4, 20172 votes

Lux E easy to dodge

Wutface

ForFoxSakesJan 4, 20172 votes

Why should an ADC with little to no defensive ability be able to survive a mage combo? Why should an ADC 3 shot a mage with no defensive ability?

That's the way it happens and why carries should take out other carries first. Are you seriously expecting fucking runes to keep you alive like you built "tanky runes" so I can stand in fire and play recklessly stupid? A bit of MR/Armor helps reduce damage, not save you from full combos

CatastropJan 4, 201711 votes

Because it isn't a channel???? There are lots of interactions like this, don't single out Syndra just because you lacked the braincells to build some MR.

Captain AishiJan 3, 20179 votes

the ability has been cast and went on cooldown, it should have the full effect of it being cast

on the flip side consider yourself lucky that it has a long cast animation so you have time to kill her after she cast her ult and killed you with it :P

CowseedJan 4, 20178 votes

Newtons first law states that an object in motion will stay in motion unless some external force is applied to the object. Death is not a force so their isn't a reason for it to disappear after it has already had the momentum carrying it hastily to connect with your face.

LordGeovanniJan 4, 20172 votes

lots of spells fizzle before they reach if the caster dies it seems like the only governing factor on who is which champions riot deems as carries