Playing against Zoe is such a great experience

GripaAviara··2 votes·751 views

I mean it's awesome. I think Zoe is the most balanced champion that exists in LoL atm. She has long range "skill" shots, i mean they are fast, but at least due to long range you have time to see what hit you. Riot thought of that to clear the confusion of what hit you

Also is a champion that offers a moment of clarity. You know when the tension builds up ingame? Don't worry, it doesn't matter Zoe misses her skill shot, you still get one of the biggest CCs in LoL, because of the persistence and AOE of the after skill-shot. Riot thought at everything, it's a great break.

Also, her AP scaling is fine, i mean she only has to miss her CC, then destroy you. And missing her CC happens all the time so is no problem.

Also, since every character gets 2 long CD summoner spells, it must mean the summoner spells are worthless, so I guess she gets only worthless spells.

Great concept. They also tried to appeal to younger audiences, like in kindergarten, so at least there will be a new generation of LoL players, so we are covered.

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vgamedude3 votes

Yeah meanwhile ADCs autoing you for half your health is completely okay. Yet another Zoe QQ thread, sarcastic edition.

MysterQ1 votes

ADCs suck, Zoe sucks more.

AR URF1 votes

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Yeah meanwhile ADCs autoing you for half your health is completely okay. Yet another Zoe QQ thread, sarcastic edition.

Tell me an ADC that can auto for half hp at level 2-3? ADCs and their half health shots are due to two reasons 1 they are fed or 2 they have the items sufficient to do such a thing. meanwhile assassins are almost one shotting with item 3147. I've been half healthed by vayne, but she had item 3087 item 3031 item 1038. That's a lot of gold to consider and I didn't buy any resistance items, such as item 3157. Now if you want to complain about Twitch then I'd agree.

BlackEyesBlue2 votes

Draven

vgamedude1 votes

Where did I say anything about level 2-3 ? Only you attached that stipulation.

AR URF1 votes

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Where did I say anything about level 2-3 ? Only you attached that stipulation.

I'm just pointing out Biases because people seem to be cheeky these days and find whatever excuse they can to hate on ADCs. Rather than hating on ADCs as a role, you can focus on those that are the problem, such as Twitch Draven and arguably Jhin.

vgamedude1 votes

I honestly think nearly all the ADCs are problematic. You can have crit item and IE on Caitlyn even (who is performing poorly compared to other ADCs) and chunk someone from huge range with an auto. I don't get people who are okay with ad carry damage and the seemingly acceptable thing of teams and comps forming around them but then complain about mages.

NiamhNyx2 votes

Gripa, learn to side step. ZOE is completely fucking useless in league. All her skills are easy to dodge and her Q can only hit 800 units away from her as a center point.

AR URF1 votes

This zoe had 235 ap once and did 800 dmg with her paddlestar, but people still complain about yasuo and ADCs. I honestly think there's a bias going around and that's simply that people don't like champions that deal a lot of damage and shred tanks. It's getting really annoying because tanks have had their glory for almost 3 seasons now.

Gives No Lux1 votes

46% win rate.

SithesisLord2 votes

For a champion with 7% pick rate and a rightfully deserved 98.15% ban rate, i think 47.63% winrate is expected. Quality CertainlyT design.

However, Zoe is objectively broken. For either side of the spectrum. She's either 8 or 80. She´ll either be performing badly and be extremely frustrating to play against, or be performing well and still be frustrating to play against.

Making Sleepy dependent on Drowsy, and thus, allowing Drowsy to be cleansed, black shielded, etc, as well as locking her out of certain summoner's spells and item actives, then gradually unlocking them at levels 6, 11 and 16 would solve a lot of her issues.

Or at the very least giving both her bubble and her paddle star static cooldowns at all ranks that aren´t affected by CDR.

Zoe being able to get TP, Redemption active, etc from a normal minion at level 4 is in no way balanced or healthy.

Gives No Lux2 votes

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For a champion with 7% pick rate and a rightfully deserved 98.15% ban rate, i think 47.63% winrate is expected. Quality CertainlyT design.

However, Zoe is objectively broken.

Simply stating your opinion as fact is not a real argument. All of these arguments against Zoe are simply because someone doesn't like one mechanic or another. None of them are backed by data except 46% win rate which implies that she is not broken at all.

Mafia LeBlanc1 votes

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Simply stating your opinion as fact is not a real argument. All of these arguments against Zoe are simply because someone doesn't like one mechanic or another. None of them are backed by data except 46% win rate which implies that she is not broken at all.

A 46% winrate without context is worthless.

She is a high skillcap champion, meaning she will take a dozen or more games to get the hang of her and use her kit to its fullest. Since she has such a high banrate, most players never GET to play those few dozen games, and end up performing poorly since it's literally their first couple of games with her.

So when you have a huge number of people that only play a high skillcap champ a few times because she's banned so often, you will get a very skewed winrate %.

Her playrate needs to increase and her banrate needs to decrease for the champion to have more reliable winrate data.

Gives No Lux1 votes

Except that her win rate is low across all ranks and is still 48 and below for 40 games played so it's not just about experience she is simply not broken and the stats back that up.

Yes, there are situations where she performs VERY well vs a single player however she has almost nothing to offer in the way of team fighting. In other words no better or worse than an average assassin.

Nasuuna1 votes

zoe circlejerk is real.

Sol does pretty much everything better minus burst damage.

You could remove zoes w and shed be weaker than pre 1st rework eve.

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