@RIOT "The DELETING of trackers knife"

SwiftKitten88··4 votes·2,335 views

first off LeeSin i dont even need to explain this that should be obvious.. you ALREADY deleted sightstone..

wtf do u think is going to happen

2nd and i quote:

Tracker's Knife is almost mandatory in professional play, giving professional teams enough vision to avoid most early-game danger. Bringing it in line would kill it in most games, so for now we're simply removing it. "

oh so you mean people place wards? interesting...its almost like the pros are playing how they are SUPPOSED TO.

oh so "games last so long with vision because people are scared of getting caught out because it they would get 1 shot, and cost their team the game." so your "answer" is to REMOVE THE VISION?

How about you LOWER THE FUCKING DAMAGE. so if someone gets caught out they wouldn't get insta-gibbed and cost their team the game.

3rd some of us in lower elo's as well like to buy trackers knife.. because NO ONE ELSE ON OUR BLOODY TEAM PLACES OR SWEEPS THE FUCKING WARDS. EVERY THOUGHT OF THAT RIOT?

even" pathfinders knife" would be better than "no trackers knife at all", even if it does place control wards, which is shit because of the 1 ward limit and having to move your control ward every time you ward to item 3364 as it is basically our only ward removal tool because we still need the item 3340 .

you did a LOT of good this patch with the ap items riot... but, SHIT LIKE THIS NEEDS TO STOP. It was BAD ENOUGH you removed sightstone and ruby sightstone.. bad enough you deleted item 3312 and now your giving us item 3905?

what fucking good that does that do? its got the same AP as old item 3312 all that does is let other champ besides support get the ghosts.. WHICH THEY WERE DOING ANYWAYS!!!!

aslso.. your t3 support items are absolute TRASH and not with upgrading...

11 Comments

Evil Yasuo5 votes

Oh poor lee, he wont get 6 free gap closers anymore.

Hyquiem1 votes

The lion must eat, and the blind am must be eaten. So the sacrifices are chosen not made.

SwiftKitten882 votes

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The lion must eat, and the blind am must be eaten. So the sacrifices are chosen not made.

the thing is i don't even PLAY LeeSin. It's just the most stupid blatantly obvious argument of to why it shouldn't have been deleted I'm not gong to not add it.

besides i dont need to play a champ to know when a massive fucking uncalled for nerf is done to them, and call that as bs.

this is a famous quote from Martin Niemöller

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

just because something is wrong doesn't hurt you.. doesn't mean its ok and you should ignore it.

and it does hurt me too.. just not as much as it guts LeeSin

ZapMyHeart1 votes

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the thing is i don't even PLAY LeeSin. It's just the most stupid blatantly obvious argument of to why it shouldn't have been deleted I'm not gong to not add it.

besides i dont need to play a champ to know when a massive fucking uncalled for nerf is done to them, and call that as bs.

this is a famous quote from Martin Niemöller

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

just because something is wrong doesn't hurt you.. doesn't mean its ok and you should ignore it.

and it does hurt me too.. just not as much as it guts LeeSin

Let's not be dramatic.

Losing Tracker's didn't gut Lee Sin.

It just gutted bad players who bought Tracker's to cover up their hyperagressive YOLO calls and removed any negative consequences for blindly diving in without thinking. Which many champions are unable to skate by without suffering some form of backlash.

Back in the day, Lee Sin had to PURCHASE wards to actually ward hop. And players did fine.

At least y'all get 2 freebie ones in a separate slot to use. More than what old players had to deal with.

Now, this separates the good ones from the wannabes.

Finally, if you are going to bring up that quote, better start defending the queen of martyrs, Karma herself in all your future threads.

pandabeardude3 votes

Back in the day, Lee Sin had to PURCHASE wards to actually ward hop. And players did fine.

Back in the day you had the option to buy wards.

ZapMyHeart1 votes

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Back in the day, Lee Sin had to PURCHASE wards to actually ward hop. And players did fine.

Back in the day you had the option to buy wards.

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BALDG1VEN BOOMER1 votes

Riots genius idea is to remove trackers knife so vision is limited and pros get ganked more so games can snowball easier.

[zombie-brand-clap]

When are they gonna realize every snowball mechanic is anti-snowball in pro. This will just increase use of things like ghost poro and zombie ward.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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Riots genius idea is to remove trackers knife so vision is limited and pros get ganked more so games can snowball easier.

[zombie-brand-clap]

When are they gonna realize every snowball mechanic is anti-snowball in pro.

ikr... never going to leave the fucking tower range anymore. the only good news is there is a chance that they revert this bullshit change when it fails to do what they want.

ShuyinTheX1 votes

Using a small removal of vision as an excuse to bitch is silly. The game had too much vision, I'm glad they're pulling some of it back.

3rakez2 votes

Pulling some of it back? U clearly are new to the game. The game was based around vision forever. Back in the days before trackers knife, junglers bought sightstone. Other roles who didnt build sightstone were able to buy wards in the shop for 75 gold and u could place 3 of them anywhere and were able to place a pink ward(now control ward) aswell. The amount of vision we currently got is less than it was before and now due to that its even less. Riots statement about removing it due to competitive games stretching out so long is cause champs who have a great and early and mid game get outscaled so fast by champions who require one or two items and especially tanks.

ShuyinTheX1 votes

The only jungler that ever bought Sightstone pre-trackers was Lee Sin because it was mandatory on him for ward hops. Junglers that bought sightstone were trolling because they were delaying their actual items at the time. Junglers didn't play support-jungle back in those days. They bought green wards and pink wards back then, but never sightstone unless they were Lee. Something you've failed to mention is champions, if you look, a large portion of champions have some form of vision in their kits even if it's super minor. Vision involves more than just wards, you clearly are new to the game if you didn't know that and calculate that into your failed argument.

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