So what's the counterplay to aphelios?

D357R0Y3R·11/28/2019, 7:31:31 PM·11 votes·5,877 views

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It really feels like you lost all senses of what counterplay is since a long fucking time ago, and you releasing yuumi/sylas/pretty much every recent designs just to gut them and leave them at 40% win rate because of how toxic they are proves that.

Let's talk about aphelios and the play you see right there Aphelios does not put points into his spells, Q and R are leveled without you doing anything, DOES THIS FUCKING SOUND RIGHT TO YOU? yea because you know what? instead he puts points into stats and get 26 ad and 18% free armor pen instead. And his ult is a 1000 range ziggs ult which also allows him to autoattacks everyone caught in it. So since he's an adc, he builds like an adc, and he gets bonus free stats from his kit, if a late game aphelios hits you with his ult you die.

sounds fun right? Because to riot game, dodging a spell is enough counterplay and provides enough fun for both parts. It's not like every single broken champions in the past like zoe or nidalee had skillshots

what if aphelios has sena with him? what if she uses her E? you can't see him casting ult and he's just going to catch you offguard.

"but, he has less spells than a normal champion when he fights"

WRONG, WRONG AGAIN

His Q costs 10 amo, and has 6 sec cd without cdr at lvl 9, and he can switch with an other weapon to instantly uses Q again. This means he has 2 Q, W, and R.

and if he runs out of amo on both weapon, he can fucking queue 4 Q in a row

https://gfycat.com/DifficultJampackedErmine

does this sound fun and interactive to you?

if an award of worst design team in the world existed, it should really belong to riot games.

33 Comments

Fuhrer Usagi11/28/2019, 7:33:27 PM6 votes

His numbers need to be nerfed. Thats the counterplay. His mechanics are fine, his kit is fine. He just does too much god damn damage.

Zardo11/28/2019, 7:49:00 PM5 votes

Assassinate him. Hes a no mobility adc, he will be very vulnerable to dive.

DalekZec11/28/2019, 10:17:01 PM5 votes

And that's why I think Aphelios is going to be a failure and a complete balance nightmare.

Riot's design philosophy is very much flawed... Seeing the videos alone pushes me away from playing League even more. I mean I'm treating the new champion unfair already by thinking he's an auto failure solely because he's designed by ct but from what I just saw, is just a valid enough reason on why I'm doing so now.

Exodus24711/28/2019, 9:32:38 PM3 votes

I mean, it was that dipshit CertainlyT who worked on this the most with the gameplay people, so you shouldent be surprised he has no counterplay. That guy needs to be removed from any position of power and sent to like, riots 'diversity' team, because hes proven time and time again hes willing to throw out all balance to FORCE a character to have some kind of unique quirk, normally leading to them being overloaded and broken. Its like riot is letting him do stuff still because hes the 'special' child of the family, he can do no wrong and we are the ones who are ignorant. Im sick of it.

iiGazeii11/28/2019, 8:06:19 PM3 votes

He's squishy af and he doesn't have mobility other than a small movement speed increase during one of his Qs.

The counterplay is shutting him down before he can get fed and killing him before he can kill you. A fed Jinx, Xayah, or Kai'Sa could do the same thing.

Death by Glamour11/28/2019, 8:37:28 PM3 votes

And people said xayah was broken on release... So many busted champs and only one ban, this is gonna be fun

Pika Fox11/28/2019, 10:26:58 PM2 votes

He has no mobility and lacks full control over what he currently has.

He is also extremely auto attack based, given most of his kit is on hit augmenting his autos.

PB4UAME11/28/2019, 9:25:58 PM2 votes

Wow, that is honestly the most fucking braindead, skillless and counterplay-lacking bullshit I have ever fucking seen. Jesus fucking christ RIOT, fire whomever worked on this, and then whomever green lit, jesus fucking christ, its like they forget that pure melees, and immobile champs, let alone immobile pure melees exist in their fucking game.

Infernape11/28/2019, 10:11:18 PM2 votes

The splash damage needs to not stack. Especially with Runaan's.

Abibyama II11/28/2019, 11:03:49 PM1 votes

I don't trust PBE games, something that looks like fucking shit can be broken in the live servers and something that looks broken can be fucking shit

I don't think that in live servers his kit will matter because Syndra pressed R on him. Could be wrong though

Everyday Legends11/28/2019, 11:21:25 PM1 votes

If you watch the first clip carefully, you'll see a Carry who is ahead in levels do a lot of damage. ...Which is what a Carry who is ahead in levels is supposed to do.

Do you understand that some Champions punish you for grouping up? Orianna and Malphite immediately come to mind. Don't facilitate your enemies' success.

Sirsir11/29/2019, 12:26:25 AM1 votes

Interesting, we can't see how fed he is in any of the clips -_-

HeresyHorus11/29/2019, 3:04:44 AM1 votes

Typical Riot ADC bias... you should have been used to it by now dude.

lamZeta12/12/2019, 7:16:49 PM1 votes

The fact that aphelios can be played in any lane and be successful if not overpower makes him, in my mind completely broken. As to the idea that you can just assassinate him, maybe if he is not adc. However, with a support with lockdown and peel, ie leon, nautilus, thresh, Tahm Kench, a competent player who knows lane management will not die. All of his weapons give him the ability to be a lane bully, his sniper turns him into Cait basically, and with the life steal one, he has a kai'sa q. To even begin to bother him you would have to consistently send mid an jg to gank, providing that Aphelios doesn's freeze lane, and hope they the enemy team doesn't follow. The counter play to aphelios from what I can tell plating against him is going a dive tank like leona and praying that you and your adc can shut him down early. I understand that with power creep these champs are going to get stronger, but Riot should recognize this and either balance new releases better or give the players more bans. have bans for 5 out of 170 something champs is ridiculous. especially when top lane is now a useless lane to play. To sum up, Aphelios is busted, take away Brad's ability to make champs.