@Meddler, Why is Darius nerfed?

Ahristocats··7 votes·1,261 views

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2017/01/110-pbe-update.html#balance

Handle damage lowered from 50% to 35%

this nerf will make darius losing more against mobile melees that can go into melee against him Riven Fiora Pantheon Maokai

Renekton might be able to lane against him again Jax he's pure garbage in early game, even if he dodges the Q he can't win

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LegitBacon665 votes

Is it okay for Darius to stomp every lane match up and sucessfully 1v3?

Ahristocats6 votes

{quoted}

Is it okay for Darius to stomp every lane match up

Rumble Riven Swain Gangplank Fiora Quinn Jayce Renekton (if they buffed him he would lane against darius)

all lane xd

{quoted} and sucessfully 1v3?

i'm playing in diamond 1 friend, not in freaking bronze

Big Lincoln4 votes

dumb nerf, Darius is balanced

2DunksFromHell3 votes

they just nerfed noxian might damage...WTF ARE THEY THINKING???? CHAMP GETS LITTLE BETTER WIN RATE THEY NERF IT NERF FUCKING VI ZIGGS XERATH MALZA MALPHITE THEY HAVE EVEN HIGHER WINRATES THEN DARIUS FCK THIS GAME IN DONE WITH IT

Stephenizgod1 votes

Darius isn't really suppose to dominate all lane match-ups. Also he is more of a noob stomper right? Like better at lower elo's because he is easy but worse in higher elo's because he has a lot of counterplay? Right now Darius is both easy and incredibly strong all game, he is hard to kill, deals a shit ton of damage, and is hard to escape/kite when he has ghost and stormraiders. Besides with those changes it doesn't affect any of those things I mentioned if you are good enough to hit the ax head.

Ahristocats3 votes

no one takes stormraider, ghost is situational

darius DOES NOT dominate all lane match ups right now, wake up friend

Stephenizgod1 votes

Well I see it a lot, tends to be picked against match-ups that don't threaten him with damage or tankiness but can run away or kite him easily.

Didn't he have a ridiculously high win rate in Diamond+ not too long ago?

Ahristocats1 votes

it doesn't matter what he does in diamond+

riot balances around plat 5 and above, and above that his win rate is 51.5% WHICH IS FINE, and while having COLOSSUS which i remind is being nerfed

Stephenizgod1 votes

Well I don't see how this nerf will have a huge impact, I believe he is suppose to struggle against champions that can get into handle range right? You will just need to adjust your playstyle to accommodate people who can jump in because your damage will be significantly lower.

Ahristocats1 votes

that's the problem, i already lose hard against riven for instance

and i'm going to lose even harder against her, for no reason at all darius doesn't need anything

Critmaster Garen1 votes

hes a bit on the strong side (only very slightly though), but that nerf is also too much, and its entirely wrong.

what they should have looked into is slightly reducing the base damage of his bleed on lower levels, or the ad bonus off his passive on lower levels. it would have removed a slight bit of power from his early laning, without impacting his midgame carry potential.

the reduced damage on his q just nerfs him at every phase of the game for no reason.

Ahristocats3 votes

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what they should have looked into is slightly reducing the base damage of his bleed on lower levels, or the ad bonus off his passive on lower levels.

i don't know about what you're proposing

i can see the passive damage nerf, but not the bonus ad

darius entire kit numbers were nerfed in exchange of bonus ad at 5 stacks why? so darius kit sucks before he gets 5 stacks, and getting 5 stacks IS SO HARD

nerfing his bonus ad on passive even in earlier ranks would make him more unplayable than Q nerf

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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what they should have looked into is slightly reducing the base damage of his bleed on lower levels, or the ad bonus off his passive on lower levels.

i don't know about what you're proposing

i can see the passive damage nerf, but not the bonus ad

darius entire kit number were nerfed in exchange of bonus ad at 5 stacks why? so darius kit sucks before he gets 5 stacks, and getting 5 stacks IS SO HARD

nerfing his bonus ad on passive even in earlier ranks would make him more unplayable than Q nerf

then the bleed would probably be a better choice.

point is, that if they want to give him a slight tap, they dont need to also nerf him at every single stage of the game. hes an early game beast against certain matchups.

taking just a little bit of the bleed damage, and only on early levels would at least not be terrible for him.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

wow. i didnt see the full extent of the nerf, and that they hit coc aswell.

yea, that goes way too far.

Dormidon1 votes

I cant say if this nerf is reasonable but actually this isnt a big deal. If you miss Q you anyway lose ur trade. Wont change much. -10 dmg early is ouch but scale is still amazing. Going suprer ham 1v1 usualy cause me to feed in lane since i pay less respect to my opponent. More reasons to play carefuly

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