buff bloodthirster. nerf attack speed..

Woook3r·Jan 2, 2017·2 votes·853 views

ffs buff adc

33 Comments

ChaddyFantomeJan 2, 20172 votes

Lifesteal is stupid OP and wanting it buffed ti ridiculous.

ßurstJan 2, 20171 votes

does't give any insight to why he thinks adc's are currently weak lol -1

Woook3rJan 2, 20171 votes

they are weak because they dont carry games. theres a difference between carrying a game and being instrumental in winning it. Items are instrumental in winning the game. you use them to beat the other team.. but the items dont carry the game.

Players on ad dont make an impact. its up to their teammates to do EVERYTHING right and thats what allows the ad to do anything. Or if the enemy makes a mistake, which they wont. There are plenty of examples of other roles that can actually DO things to influence the game. Name one play an ad can make to win the game.

i didnt give any insight because it should be obvious that when a 0/3 nassus can face roll a 4/2 adc. The ad shouldnt be punished like that simply because morgana forgot to use black shield before nassus used whither. Its not the vaynes fault. But vayne gets punished. The adc is a whipping boy.

doesnt understand the obvious. -1?

Ad Vitam AeternaJan 2, 20171 votes

Is that why you are stuck in low elo?

Woook3rJan 2, 20171 votes

yes. With ashe, I climbed from b4 to s1 maxing q. then they nerfed ashe and ranked reset.

Void NargacugaJan 2, 20171 votes

What are you building on Ashe now when you do play her?

Woook3rJan 2, 20171 votes

I build ER and max w on her now. I used to build ie and max q

Void NargacugaJan 2, 20171 votes

Try these items: item 3508 item 3031 item 3085 (too good to pass up for Ashe due to synergy with her Ranger's Focus) and That should net you about 70% crit just with those. To max out crit maybe get a item 3087 .

Try rushing the ER and Hurricane should help a bit. I think maxing W first now is the way to go though. I was just mainly talking about items. Hope this helps though.

Woook3rJan 2, 20171 votes

you are acting like you might be telling me something new.

Void NargacugaJan 2, 20171 votes

I'm just trying to be helpful.

Woook3rJan 2, 20171 votes

well im just trying to represent the fact that theres no way im posting on the boards without knowing what items to buiild on ashe. theres also the fact that you told me to rush er when I said I already rush er.

the reason i cant climb has nothing to do with items, I cant clear krugs as an adc bc the hp cost is now too high. and I cant farm my lane as a bronze adc because the cost of feeding a kill to the jungler is too high.

I used to rotate thru the jungle 15-25 min in on ashe or whenever farming my lane became too risky.. then by 30 min, the inept enemy team would not have been able to end the game and I would be very strongly farmed. Begin picking enemy teammembers with vision aarow and ulti aarow..it was a fantastic strategy until they nerfed it.

Void NargacugaJan 3, 20171 votes

You said you build ER, not rushing it as in first item as seen here.

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I build ER and max w on her now. I used to build ie and max q

You should be keeping an eye on things with you Hawkshot, and helping ward the Tri-bush or river bush should help so that your support can ward deeper into the jungle.

I'm just trying to give advice based off what little information is at hand. Sorry if I'm repeating things you already know. I'm kinda going down a mental checklist of things.

Irelia BotJan 4, 20171 votes

This guy is clearly doing one of those angry shit posts with no real consideration for what he is actually saying.

King of DemonsJan 2, 20171 votes

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they are weak because they dont carry games. theres a difference between carrying a game and being instrumental in winning it. Items are instrumental in winning the game. you use them to beat the other team.. but the items dont carry the game.

Players on ad dont make an impact. its up to their teammates to do EVERYTHING right and thats what allows the ad to do anything. Or if the enemy makes a mistake, which they wont. There are plenty of examples of other roles that can actually DO things to influence the game. Name one play an ad can make to win the game.

i didnt give any insight because it should be obvious that when a 0/3 nassus can face roll a 4/2 adc. The ad shouldnt be punished like that simply because morgana forgot to use black shield before nassus used whither. Its not the vaynes fault. But vayne gets punished. The adc is a whipping boy.

doesnt understand the obvious. -1?

There is a reason why they aren't called AD Carry anymore but Marksmen.

You are a ranged physical DPS class that supports the team by being a damage threat.

MizayaJan 2, 20171 votes

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There is a reason why they aren't called AD Carry anymore but Marksmen.

You are a ranged physical DPS class that supports the team by being a damage threat.

Nah they were pretty good at carrying last season after the "Marksman" update. Not so much now.

King of DemonsJan 2, 20171 votes

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Nah they were pretty good at carrying last season after the "Marksman" update. Not so much now.

So they are not 100% in the spotlight atm and that's a bad thing? Plus they are in a pretty good spot right now. Idk. Game still revolves around their lane for some reason, you know

MizayaJan 2, 20172 votes

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So they are not 100% in the spotlight atm and that's a bad thing? Plus they are in a pretty good spot right now. Idk. Game still revolves around their lane for some reason, you know

Yeah the game revolves around their lane... but having 5v5 bot at 10 min isn't exactly good for the marksman. They are still good if they get to late game, but on average their impact is quite underwhelming. Plus they're pretty much restricted to crit build again which sucks. So they have to go with a build that makes them kinda weak early, but they usually can't even farm that well because fiesta bot lane. At the very least could make playing them feel more rewarding, doesn't even require making them that much stronger.

Woook3rJan 2, 20171 votes

yea.. ppl want to act like adc has such a great late game. well they dont because late game is not good for anyone. which is why you used to see jhin build ghostblade which is an item that falls off late game. because jhin pplayers said fuck having a late game. id rather win the game early.

MizayaJan 3, 20171 votes

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yea.. ppl want to act like adc has such a great late game. well they dont because late game is not good for anyone. which is why you used to see jhin build ghostblade which is an item that falls off late game. because jhin pplayers said fuck having a late game. id rather win the game early.

exactly but rito nerfed those items for adc so now they not usually even worth buying lol i got flamed last time i built ghostblade on jhin. think about it the crit build hardly has an impact until like 30 min and YET it is still better than armor pen build.

ßurstJan 4, 20171 votes

Wrong the Jhin build that had armor pen was good early game, but it was also great late game, the build didnt fall off hard at all because the jhin still built crit

Woook3rJan 2, 20171 votes

no. thats because yasuo is an attack dmg building carry but he is not a marksman. Similarly. Asir is a marksman but not an adc. they wanted to distinguish between ranged dps marksman and attack dmg building carry

ßurstJan 4, 20171 votes

An 0-3 nasus can dumpster my riven toplane and I'm not sitting here complaining either he just builds an armor item does more damage than me and can't do any damage to him yet he's able to slow me for days without anyone helping me.

Irelia BotJan 4, 20171 votes

Well that is just it

They are not attack damage "carries" anymore they are called Marksmen.

Woook3rJan 4, 20171 votes

pretty sure they changed that because of tryn yasuo and fiora. All of which are adc's, but not ranged and therefore different. If you hadnt noticed, they also stopped using the word "offtank" and started using other words like vanguard or some shit. As well, azir is a marksman and not an APC. They didnt decide to downgrade ranged ad from the carry role. They decided to shift to a more descriptive and consistent vocabulary.

JbelsJan 2, 20171 votes

Jhin meta booois

God RaijinJan 2, 20171 votes

Man OP, I don't know how much you keep up with the popular threads on these boards, and I'm not saying any one opinion isn't valid, BUT, posting to buff lifesteal on this board is like walking into a Trump rally with a "vote-Hilary" T shirt on.

Woook3rJan 2, 20171 votes

thanks. i dont give a fuck.

God RaijinJan 2, 20171 votes

Look "bruh" If you are wanting a life steal buff, it's because you are dying, obviously you want more hp so that you can live, or take more hits in return for the damage that you deal. Clearly, not even warlord's vampirism, and doran's blade are seeming not enough..... ........, ........., K, Yeah well, it's pretty obvious that you aren't positioning well, or that you are playing something immobile and positioning poorly. I'm only trying to be slightly rude when I say you are doing something wrong if you can't carry with the highest statistically shown damage dealers in the game. Just saying 2 out of the top 8 players are ADC mains

Woook3rJan 2, 20171 votes

you cant position some champions. like draven. if you play properly 7/10 of your deaths are not due to your fault. otherwise, you would be useless because you cant afford to get close enough.

Dont talk to me about the top 10 players in NA. Those people dont play the same game as me.

CalabokJan 2, 20171 votes

posting what you want changed for personal gain is not going happen.

Woook3rJan 2, 20172 votes

thanks. I dont give a fuck.

Irelia BotJan 4, 20171 votes

Can't we just make Wit's end good like it was in season 2 and make bloodthirster stack again?

Woook3rJan 4, 20171 votes

I think bloodthirster should be good enough to make draven decent again, but I think one of the problems in the game is lifesteal and sustain. They are very harsh in their vlad criticism because of the sustain. And I think its a bit broken as well.