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I love Soraka, but I feel like she's just a worse Janna/Lulu

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Even when I sometimes play with friends, I'm just too tired to pick soraka, since I can pick lulu and go braindead EWR on adc and I'm done. Janna is just janna and she's always hovering that 55% win rate. Last season I got d2 with soraka only, but tilted with unwinnable games to d5, then stopped playing. It doesn't help that everyone has a hard on for killing soraka, yesterday I played a game with nocturne/cho/malza/nami focusing me every god damn time and I couldn't do shit. It's bonus when enemy adc comes to lane with executioners, where janna lulu don't give a fook about that. They also have point and click dmg abilities, that do quite a lot. This season I mained udyr jungle, because I got burnt out on soraka, now I have a crave for playing her again, but the same shit is still here... bad adc = you can heal all the shit you want, won't matter or they can pick any hard engage supp and you gotta play like a lil bish all game long. Lulu, janna have massive disengage tools, whereas with soraka all you can do is throw down a silence and hope your team does something in that time.

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Darkin Hybrid5 votes

Soraka would be good, if 60% of her kit (Q, W, R = 60% / Passive + E = 30%) wouldn't be shut down by one cheap item item 3123.

I just wish that there could be an equal item like the one above, where it would be used to counter shields specifically. Kind of sucks always having to automatically loose lane when ever you see Janna on the enemy team.

YumaS2Astral3 votes

Well, the reason why everyone has a hard on for killing Soraka is because either they do that, or the team with Soraka auto wins teamfights just because Soraka can heal all damage done and outsustain the other team. This is because her healing lacks counterplay other than "focus Soraka", or "buy Grievous Wounds" - the former is more reliable though, since not all Grievous Wounds sources can be applied to multiple enemies. There are many champions whose healing lacks counterplay, but their healing tend to be significantly lower compared to that of Soraka.

It doesn't help that Soraka is very frustrating to play against due to that reason. She auto wins fights unless you focus her or buy Grievous Wounds, and in either case, you are forced to play in a way you don't want to play just to win against Soraka. I would argue that Soraka is more frustrating to play against than Lulu or even Janna. Even if Soraka can poke with her Q early game, and can silence multiple enemies, she still feels like a healing bot. The Warmog build also negates the massive cost of her healing.

Soraka needs to be made less frustrating to play against and have more counterplay if Riot wants to have Soraka be on par with Janna and Lulu.

It Hertz When IP3 votes

Warmogs requires her to itemize in such a way that each individual heal is absolute ass, meaning that UNTIL she gets Warmogs AND something else to reach 3K health (guessing SV or Shurelyas), all she's building is health. Nothing she has scales off health except her ability to kill herself, meaning that early game you should be punishing her and whoever she's with. Hell, if Manaflow Band and Coin weren't slightly overtuned, Warmogs Soraka would be even worse due to mana issues. Add to that the fact that Warmogs + the amount of health required to hit 3k costs enough to make this a late-game build at best?

http://na.op.gg/champion/soraka/statistics/support

champion.gg didn't even list Warmogs Soraka, took another website to find out why. Warmogs Soraka rocks a 62.52% winrate, but a 0.69% pickrate. That's roughly 1 out of every 145 Soraka matches seeing Warmogs. My guess for the winrate is that Warmogs as a strat is only being built into very specific situations where Soraka straight-up needs the health for something else (assassins/divers I bet).

tl;dr Other than niche circumstances, Warmogs Soraka does not happen. On initial rework release it was viable, but nowadays she's building AP enchanter items like every other enchanter.

GripaAviara2 votes

Soraka is super strong ... she has better heal than lulu, that silence can change a team fight, and her heal is AOE and with a little AP can be comparable with lulu ulti in terms of actual heal.

Is she more team reliant than Lulu? Yeah, but she's a niche champ

Leylania1 votes

I would love for her Q to heal more with multiple enemies hit so she has a reason to play more aggressive, while also highering the CD on her W in late game (to get her away from the idea of being a braindead heal bot).

As compensation for the W cd her E should get a buff in some sort, maybe rooting faster to give her more reliable CC and make it possible for her to actually assist in ganks. I've read on other posts that maybe they should give her back the ability to give mana to allies with the E, but I can see how that would be broken.

Would also love to see her get back the ability to remove GW with her Ult.

Professor Ward1 votes

No enchanter offers the heal per second that soraka does, if thats what your comp is looking for, then sorakas the pick.

With that said soraka is by far my least favorite to play and i usually default to nami for heal sustain.

FakeGravity1 votes

they should make her R ignore Grievous wounds and change her passive entirely to something different

if they want to be more radical, make her heal a true "heal over time" instead of a burst of healing, then given she cant save allies with just heals in the heat of battle, give her a shield or something

i have always waited for a shield that reads "if it is break by damage, heal the target for X" encouraging the right moment to use it

Shablagoo1 votes

Its cuz there is no shield counter yet, they also have better disengage, she is worse cuz she is more skill based then both of them.

Feel Apathy1 votes

Hopefully Irelia isn't banned 24-7 so we can see how much the shield supports' winrates change.

I do agree though, soraka is terrible to play as when an item bought for 800g kills your kit, pink wards and shaco/akali/twitch/eve were redesigned, but soraka bites the dust, because champions like Vladimir Warwick and a lot others are kept in check by the item 3123

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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Hopefully Irelia isn't banned 24-7 so we can see how much the shield supports' winrates change.

I don't think it will change much, one champ with a shield busting mechanic will not be enough to counter all the shields in this game. Just like despite Varus and Katarina existing, they are not enough to counter heals. - I know that item 3123 item 3076 item 3165 exists, but there was a point in this game that item 3123 item 3076 didn't existed, item 3075 had no Grievous Wounds, and item 3165 would only inflict Grievous Wounds when you were under 40% health. Champions with natural Grievous Wounds still weren't meta back then, and healing was busted.

Dead flag blues1 votes

A well played Soraka isn't only a heal-bot. Her E is insane and can win teamfights

Dorans Pants1 votes

Found myself in the exact same position. Used to play soraka a lot but it´s such an uphill battle with her, that there is hardly any reason to pick her over far easier champs like lulu, who can mitigate enough dmg, while also offering reliable cc and utility. Not to mention that every other enchanter except soraka can shield himself or speed himself up, which makes them so much safer.

from an enchanter´s perspective, which are all pretty braindead tbh, soraka is probably the highest risk lowest reward of them all, relying heavily on a teamcomp that can protect her ( but who protects the support anyway? ) and being very matchup dependend, especially in laning phase. with barely any cc your ganking potential is pretty much non-existent, while the lack of cc and mobility makes you fairly easy to gank and dive. And you are going through all of this in hope that you may be able to get off multiple heals,(which I forgot to mention also kill you in the process compared to shields, which are completely free) before you inevitably get caught by the insane mobility that is in this game, while your teammates completely ignore you because you are supposed to keep them alive, not the other way around.

Ahristocats1 votes

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Janna is just janna and she's always hovering that 55% win rate.

i must be anosognosic to not see that win rate on any website that is reliable

Mama Soraka1 votes

I like you, too, pal.

[sg-soraka]

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