Lissandra new passive idea.

Arcyyy··20 votes·933 views

True Ice Transcendence

Slowing, Rooting, or Stunning an enemy champion grants Lissandra X Additional Mana Permanently. In addition to this, her abilities scale with her maximum Mana.


And probably tweak her ratios a bit idk. Would fit the theme of a late game utility mage.

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Chazual Fridays6 votes

It unnecessarily takes identity away from Ryze with the mana scaling, and while you could, in theory, keep the maximum mana gain, you would shift Liss's itemization a lot, I feel ( item 3003 would feel like a necessity to maximize the passive's use, but rushing tear on a Liss would feel pretty bad, and so would it really be best to lead someone toward a non-optimal build path with that passive? Probably not, I think).

Don't mean to crap all over the idea necessarily; just my initial thoughts. As a top lane Liss player, I do like any passive that would in some way mitigate mana costs to be less Blue-reliant (and therefore more viable top lane).

Anu3isII1 votes

Tear has always been an option, is just that it requires scaling, something that most mages don't want, as their powerspikes are in the Mid Game.Though, once fully stacked, Seraph is a very powerful item, that provides one of the most powerful shields in this game.

I personally don't know if she should have Mana Ratios, as she could become a second version of old Ryze: a champion forced to build 2 Mana items and then builds full tank, who has enough damage to kill a squishy and deals a ton of AoE Damage, while it takes hours to be killed. The huge difference between them both is that Lissandra has a ton of CC, so she would be pretty similar to Tank Ekko in a way.

I like the idea of making her scale infinitely, but not when it leads to unhealthy builds that abuse the newly added ratios.

The only way I could see Mana Scalings be introduced in her kit without breaking her, but have an effect in her kit, would be by adding them only to her Ultimate. It is not spammable, and would enchant her Late Game power of a Teamfight Mage by making it a game changing Ultimate.

Divewing6 votes

Ryze's identity?

Which one?

Machine gun mage, point click root, mana scaling, whole team teleport?

Fucker has enough "identities", it's time he learnt to share

PokladnicaZla2 votes

Ryze isn't the only champion who's abilities scale with mana.

Bârd3 votes

They tried something like this.

Ended up being pretty mediocre, but Vandril had fun with it.

DISHONORABLE XD1 votes

down voted bc bad passive name , too long .

GrReaper961 votes

Trice Trans

Grayowl1 votes

not bad idea,but then there is problem with movement impairing items like rylais...

GrReaper962 votes

3/4 of lissandras skills give cc anyways, the last being her gap closer. Wont be a problem

morris11 votes

Her current passive excludes non-innate CC anyways.

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

I'm on the fence about this idea. On one hand, it fits Lissandra's power curve and gives her mana help like her current passive, as well as encouraging Lissandras to be more aggressive overall. On the other hand, it heavily weakens her early game. Her abilities eat up mana, and she won't really be able to clear waves well early. Plus, the mana she would get early would be low, because she doesn't hit her opponent with CC much in the early game. Maybe altering some of her mana costs to deal with this would work.

Succubús GF1 votes

Syndra : Transcendence ?

Gentleman Jey1 votes

Or, everytime she applies CC. It could take time off of the cooldown of her E. That would make her stronger, I believe.

PokladnicaZla1 votes

Why isn't Iceborn a sufficient name for it?

Maybe ˝Watcher Prophet˝ ?

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