Lower the duration of his ~~weeb wall ~~ wind wall at early ranks? Something like 2/2.5/3/3.5/4 seconds down from 5 seems fair for an ability that can cancel entire ultimates. He already has 2 ways to mitigate damage (Passive and E) why does he need another one that lasts 5 seconds?
Fondling Gems24 votesActually has a 3.75 second duration, so it would tap his early game but give him a tad more late game which makes sense since he is a mid-late game champ.
Papa Andrei14 votesMeant to be a mid late game champ xD Though in all actuality its just "Oh hey I got one item gg"
Bladerunner777710 votesnot even fuckin close
the boards are really scraping the bottom of the barrel now
Junkο16 votesWhat how dare you not shit talk Yasuo and Yasuo mains like they are some kind of flamming asshole cancers! Downvotes for you bronze noob! Eks dee!
junglerboy162 votesflamming asshole cancers!
I loled
ˉˉˉˉˉˉ11 votesBiggest problem I have with him, besides HIM IN GENERAL, are his passive shield, and his Windwall. Either just remove the passive shield, or nerf the Windwall, llike you said.
It should be skill based, to block a skillshot like Ashe ult, NOT be there for two eternities just casually blocking the entire enemies' damage sources.
Knoyle3 votesI think an easier fix would be to give the wall a small cast time so it literally doesn't save him even when he panic uses it in the wrong direction. Like instead of coming from him and being instantly effective it spawn an aa range in from him and takes .25-.5 seconds to cast or something of that nature. I'm just throwing a suggestion to make it less frustrating to see on lesser Yasuo players.
ItzBongoz2 votesBiggest problem I have with him, besides HIM IN GENERAL, are his passive shield, and his Windwall. Either just remove the passive shield, or nerf the Windwall, llike you said.
It should be skill based, to block a skillshot like Ashe ult, NOT be there for two eternities just casually blocking the entire enemies' damage sources.
Honestly I don't get why people don't like the passive shield... it takes any, I REPEAT ANY, be it a tick of sunfire even to completely mitigate it. It works very well to help him lane against mages or ranged champions and hardly provides anything in a full fight. Compare it to Malphite, who's shield is much bigger and scales with stats and doesn't completely dissapear after taking damage. In my opinion, Yasuo's shield is about half as effective as Malphites which is why he has another part to his passive.
dr lichdeath2 votesi hate it cuz of it replenishes itself so fast and on ulting the times i nearly killed a yas and enemy jungle flashes knocks up and hes back to full shield and im dead and it keeps on filling up even when being poked... it basically ruins the poke you do at lvl 1-3 while you get way more dmg from enemy minions
ItzBongoz1 votes[{quoted}](name=dr lichdeath,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EEnyyyaG,comment-id=000700010000,timestamp=2017-04-16T16:38:53.977+0000)
i hate it cuz of it replenishes itself so fast and on ulting the times i nearly killed a yas and enemy jungle flashes knocks up and hes back to full shield and im dead and it keeps on filling up even when being poked... it basically ruins the poke you do at lvl 1-3 while you get way more dmg from enemy minions
Between Yasuo and Malphite, both shields take about the same time to recharge
OyddAWqJ5r3 votesExcept one requires him to not take damage for x seconds and miss a few CS if he wants it back.
Death by Glamour7 votesMake it so that it only blocks thing when hit in the front
MissingKayo2 votesGotta love when projectile hits his model but then he windwalls anyways and it still blocks it because the windwall comes out from the center of his model xd
Or when he blocks in a completely incorrect angle and still blocks it anyways.
Or throws the windwall literally in the complete fucking opposite way behind him and still blocks it anyways.
AmazoX7 votesA passive that ''Mitigates damage'' that shield is gone with a spit.
His dash has a fixed distance. (LOL Dash mitigating damage)
His base HP is the weakest out of all the melee characters in the game 518- Base HP.
He has no MR scalings like every other character in the game except for Kassadin and Kayle.
He has one of the worst base stats in the entire roster except for his MS.
Riot Games will not nerf him when his early game isn't strong, They would instead compensate while nerfing WW which would make him Jayce level of oppressiveness due to better base stats.
underscores2227 votesI mean, a passive shield does "mitigate" damage - you directly take less damage than someone without that passive.
Dashing is still a very good way to avoid skillshots and other AoE effects. It's faster than walking. Increases the likelihood of dodging some damage. As annoying as any other character with a dash. It's limitations are countered by several other factors, including ramping damage and a short cooldown.
Low base HP is expected when you have a passive shield and other survivability tools (see also: Morde and Nasus)
Riot has mentioned that all champs will soon be getting scaling MR as an additional balance lever, so this will soon be irrelevant. Also, I believe that several other melee champs, such as Yi and Kat, lack scaling MR. Almost all ranged champs lack scaling MR.
Civafu1 votesAlso, I believe that several other melee champs, such as Yi and Kat, lack scaling MR. Almost all ranged champs lack scaling MR.
Not exactly.
All ranged champions (or those who have a ranged form like 
, 
or 
) do not gain MR per level, and the only melee-only champions who do not are 
and 
, which is probably because they have increased resistance on some of their abilities while being midlaners (kassadin gains 15% reduced magic damage with his passive and has a magic shield on his Q while yasuo has his passive and an active windwall to avoid alot of damage).
Aedificator14104 votesI would rather like it if they simply made it so Yasuo's shield didn't replenish while in combat. The most frustrating thing about this shield is when it just "appears" as you're in a longer fight. It is intended to give Yasuo some help in the lane phase against opponents with more range, but when it procs in the middle of a fight, it's just some free shield happening for no reason and serving no actual purpose. It's just there.
Tl;dr: Yasuo's passive shield should only replenish while out-of-combat.
Krys Star2 votesAs much as I hate Yasuo, and find myself stressed out laning against him (thanks Riot for making an incredibly anti-fun and frustrating champ to play against, while fun for the Yasuo players), I think they would hit him hard. Maybe make it so he fills up his shield at half the rate while in combat would be better.
Although, if anything, I think the crit portion of his passive needs a scaling change. Instead of double crit at all levels, it should differ based on his level up until a certain level, where it's back to double.
RenownedWheat423 votesWind wall is small as shit at lower ranks already and easy to play around. Shorter duration along with its already craptastic size is hefty.
FilDaFunk2 votesWind wall is small as shit at lower ranks already and easy to play around. Shorter duration along with its already craptastic size is hefty.
How is it easy to play around? He can sit on it until he sees a skillshot. Do we not use anyskillshots?
RenownedWheat422 votesBait it? I play around it all the time when I get Yasuo in mid. Every time, I'm a Taliyah, and unless he's invested a lot of points into his windwall early (which would be idiotic) I can just Q from worked ground to bait it, then step to the side and full Q from an angle instead of going straight.
I've had many ranged matchups against my Yasuo bait my windwall (Urgot, Swain, Lux typically) then play on the side of it as well because it's just so damn small.
If you insist that you can do NOTHING against a windwall, it's because you don't know how to play against it, end of. Yasuo's mobility is MUCH bigger of an issue.
ninjaroxas1 votesI can't say taliyah is a good example since he can just dash away from your q or just walk on the other side of the wall
RenownedWheat421 votesI listed three others. Baiting is also not a concept unique to Taliyah.
PrinceOfStorms3 votesEven better. Give him the Azir treatment, removing his EQ interaction, flow shield, and free arpen on his ult.
Nuky2 votesDude I don't understand you. He got so many nerfs, he has 48% win rate in High Elo and he isn't strong now. There are so many other champions that are more stronger then him, much better picks and have over 52% win rate. Ahri for example. And pls I am tired of you low elo shiters who aren't pleased with all these nerfs and you probably won't be because you guys have stereotype and big problem I can tell you. If you won't to see Yasuo then ban him, bans are for that situations. I mean wholy shit I am so tilted when I see even after 10000 nerfs you LOW ELO players aren't pleased yet. Damn, that's disctusting.
P.S I just saw that you are Gold 4 so I was right.
no to toxic4 votesI know you must be the highest of elos to write like that but think about it. Do people hate Lee sin? Sometimes but not always. Because he has clear weaknesses like a shitty late game and not being very good if the player has not enough mechanics to press E on Garen. Meanwhile look at Yasuo. Has weaknesses like sucking if you are not very very good with him. But here is the catch he has no skillshots and most if not all of his dmg comes from AAing you. AA have no counterplay outside of "Dont go in range" Meaning a Yasuo who had a heart attack and fell on his mouse could still be able to effectivly do most of his dmg. With wich I mean a Yasuo has no room for error while a Lee Sin has even if it just hitting 1 simple skillshots. Also this is multiplied by Yasuo being seen in nearly every game where he can`t be banned.
Cowseed2 votesThis is a blatant lie and shows how deep you are in your own shit that you be deluding yourself. Q is a skillshot. The knock up on the q is a skillshot. His W is also a skill shot because he can't just target an ult and the windwall blocks that move automatically. The dude has to wait to use it at the right moment, in the right position and for the right skill else it becomes hella useless. His dash might as well be considered a semi-skillshot as it's fixed distance but then again it's not as reliable because it needs minions. And his ult is not even a skillshot. It's kinda worse. It requires specific cc which your team may or may not have in supply. And if your team does not have any then guess what, you have to hit a skillshot. So don't try and sell this bullshit because it is starting to get on my fucking nerves. I don't even play Yasuo so don't try that 'you're a Yas main/fanboy' cop out. I'm just really, fully, 110% sick of your shit.
no to toxic2 votesThis is a blatant lie and shows how deep I am in my own shit that I am deluding myself. Q is a skillshot. The knock up on the q is a skillshot. His W is also a skill shot because he can't just target an ult and the windwall blocks that move automatically. The dude has to wait to use it at the right moment, in the right position and for the right skill else it becomes hella useless. His dash might as well be considered a semi-skillshot as it's fixed distance but then again it's not as reliable because it needs minions. And his ult is not even a skillshot. It's kinda worse. It requires specific cc which your team may or may not have in supply. And if your team does not have any then guess what, you have to hit a skillshot. So I`m trying sell this bullshit because it is starting to get on my fucking nerves. I GODDAMN MAIN Yasuo!! So don't try that 'you're a Anime fanboy' cop out. I'm just really, fully, 110% sick of my own shit.
FIFY
ninjaroxas2 votesPoppy's Q is also a skill shot. If you miss either you're stupid
edit: to say that better and nicer both are easy skill shots to land and its hard to miss them
Frightning1 votesFaker's missed Yasuo Qs before, so about that....
ninjaroxas1 votesPro =/= prefect Everyone has stupid moment's. And the main point is skillshot =/= hard to land Also you can't compare pro play to the rest of league
Frightning2 votesNot every skillshot has to be hard to land, ofc pro play isn't perfect, no one is. There's absolutely 0 reason pro play isn't comparable to the rest of league, it's literally the exact same game, just with a group of very skilled players that practice together extensively, which means that you will generally see something closer to perfect play there as opposed to anywhere else.
PermabannedGaren1 votes[{quoted}](name=no to toxic,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EEnyyyaG,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2017-04-16T09:41:57.621+0000)
But here is the catch he has no skillshots
Kek, stopped reading.
Myrkrvaldyr1 votesstronger than him*. Jesus, learn the difference between then and than. Don't add 'more' when the adjective is already in the superlative form, it's 'stronger', not 'more stronger'.
Nuky1 votesSorry for bad english btw, i am from Europe
GayFluffyUnicorn1 votesGold 5 negative winrate yasuo main calling a gold 4 "low elo shitter". Gotta love this community.
Cowseed1 votesThat obviously means the dude has a bit more humility than you people and knows he isn't that good at the game.
GULAG 4 U1 votesIt may not be a bad idea, but that doesn't mean the proposed change is necessary at the moment.
SSShutTheDuckUp2 votesThere is not such a thing as bad time for yasuo nerf :D
Pink her Ult1 votesHe's sub 50 winrate stop complaining.
BoilTheOil1 votesbecause hes not op
yourmother6711 votesCan we just put it on a longer cooldown?
Luminier1 votesI also don't think the width of his wall should grow with level. It's supposed to protect HIM, not his whole team.
Ruin Lance1 votesyea and let's give him the azir treatment too while we're at it. boards is ridiculous. yasuo has been nerfed countless times since this shit started and you guys still aren't satisfied ??????????????????????????????????????????????
d3r3k1 votesYES PLEASE GOD NERF YASUO'S ASS TO THE GROUND
Prestige AkaIi1 votesHe absolutely fine right now though. I dont particularly like yasuo but i dont think he really needs balancing rn.
