Ahri, a Mage is allowed in blood moon, but Kayn, an assassin, isn't.

Arcyyy·Sep 2, 2017·59 votes·3,237 views

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89 Comments

Nut on my ButtSep 2, 201755 votes

Stop. This has been addressed. Kayn not being included was a mistake that will be rectified next time with accelerated transformation rate and his red form disabled in the mode.

If anyone should be removed, it's Kennen with his aoe CC ult.

LordGeovanniSep 2, 20171 votes

why remove his red form. i dont see defensive items removed from the mode

Nut on my ButtSep 3, 201717 votes

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why remove his red form. i dont see defensive items removed from the mode

The same reason you don't see champs like Jax in the mode.

statelesskillerSep 3, 20173 votes

but jax isnt a assassin though

CelebrimborrSep 3, 20179 votes

Yasuo and camille are not assassins either

statelesskillerSep 3, 20175 votes

they dont belong in there either if you ask me

NineTailedMysticSep 3, 201711 votes

A fuck ton of self healing on all of his abilities and % damages is why.

LordGeovanniSep 3, 20172 votes

Isnt % damage only god versus tanks and not low hp champions? and everyone has access to healing item 3153 vs a squishy is more healing than rhast vs a squishy

NineTailedMysticSep 3, 20172 votes

It's not whether its good or not, its whether or not % HP damage fits in the game type, and it does not.

LordGeovanniSep 3, 20172 votes

So bye bye ekko?

Chembaron YamadaSep 3, 20174 votes

Ekko doesn't have %HP damage, he has % missing health damage, the same applies to Shaco. In other words: They have execute damage, which is pretty common among assassins.

Rhaast on the other hand has %HP damage. There is a difference.

Chembaron YamadaSep 4, 20171 votes

Yes, everyone has access to healing with BotrK. Which Rhaast can utilise as well...

Rhaast just has way too much healing built in his kit. He can use healing itemization on top of it and the ammount of healing he would have access to would be too much in my opinion. Rhaast is healing for literally everything he does.

LordGeovanniSep 4, 20171 votes

Ahri Akali item 3146

LordGeovanniSep 4, 20171 votes

Rhaast is healing for a % of nearly non existant damage versus squishies some of which can also heal and all of which will be building healing

IronfieldSep 2, 201714 votes

They messed up and will include him next time however Raast will be disabled.

Somebody Love MeSep 2, 20171 votes

Where did you see this?

IronfieldSep 3, 20174 votes

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Where did you see this?

Riotmeddler's comment. https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/6vczmv/kayn_should_be_on_the_blood_moon_mode/dlzanfn/

Somebody Love MeSep 2, 201713 votes

Ahri actually has assassin qualities. A better question is why Elise and Kennen are in that mode. Kayn would be in it if they could limit him to assassin only, while keeping Rhaast out, but that's too much work. I wonder why Wukong isn't there.

SEKAISep 2, 20177 votes

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I wonder why Wukong isn't there.

Because Wukong can ulti faceroll your team and it's gonna suck real hard when your team is limited to 5 assassin (or -ish) characters.

Somebody Love MeSep 2, 20179 votes

But Kennen is more mage than anything. He'll just ult hourglass and it's just as bad as when Wukong ult CCs everyone.

Vellich0rSep 3, 20173 votes

but with nowhere near the innate tankiness

Somebody Love MeSep 3, 20173 votes

I understand the innate tankiness argument. Fair enough, but I still don't think Kennen belongs.

yay nibbersSep 3, 20171 votes

because kennen has a bm skin lul

Somebody Love MeSep 4, 20171 votes

So do shen, Zilean, Kalista, and Thresh. And Twisted Fate for some reason

Zëd LęppelinSep 2, 201710 votes

Kennen item 3157 ?

ThefrostyvikingSep 2, 20179 votes

They were just working on a way to disable Rhaast and still keep Kayn working.

And Ahri is a hybrid between burst mage and assassin, kinda like how panth is something between a diver and a assassin.

CorinthiaxSep 3, 20171 votes

CAMMILLE?????

ThefrostyvikingSep 3, 20174 votes

Camilie going full damage is the same as any assassin really.

Not much different from Diana or ekko, except AD, or that diver Rengar build.

Jerry SeinfeIdSep 3, 20171 votes

Any diver going full damage is an assassin.

ThefrostyvikingSep 3, 20175 votes

Nah, most of them aren't really assassins, they lack the mobility.

Camilie is very good in that department thanks to her E but it's not all that usual.

A few other divers that could be considered assassins if going full damage would be rengar......( Yes he is part of the divers category), Elise and lee sin.

The condition is basically being sneaky with the abiltiy to dish out a lot of sudden burst while also possessing mobility or some mindgame ability.

Which makes it even weirder that Pantheon is in that mess, he doesn't really fit in anywhere.

Wukong is not allowed because his ulti is too OP for a assassin.

Then there is the deal with Camilie being a assassin according to her backstory too x) Altho no one builds her like that.

waiting for WoWSep 2, 20177 votes

I'm guessing they just don't want him going Darkin and building only drain tank items. It's an assassin game mode and him going darkin/drain tank would seriously fuck up the entire game mode.

koshkyraSep 2, 20177 votes

He was just released

And ahri is an assassin

Why the fuck is Kennen in blood moon tho?

NineTailedMysticSep 3, 20173 votes

Ahri has been considered a primary Mage since 5.2. However, she does have Assassin qualities.

RaoulSep 2, 20174 votes

Even better: PANTHEON is allowed...

Critmaster GarenSep 2, 20175 votes

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Even better: PANTHEON is allowed...

pantheon is an assassin. it might be weird thematically, but its exactly how he plays.

you build him full ad/lethality, catch someone out and burst him down.

InstaPoppySep 2, 20174 votes

Riot already talked about this and said it was an oversight, they will add him in the next bloodmoon and probably disable rhaast :)

NaalithSep 2, 20173 votes

I think it's because it would take him too long to transform and they don't want to code a way in to limit him to assassin Kayn. Still lame though, I have 7 on him.

BisaknospSep 2, 20173 votes

ahri sucks there tho

aspects1Sep 3, 20173 votes

read the things riot says before you start complaining lol they are adding kayn next blood moon, but you get blue souls only

Jeanne fan clubSep 3, 20173 votes

Well to be fair, she kind of just exists in the mode to be "outplayed" by every other champion's targeted abilities and dashes.

Lets be real here, in the current cast of blood moon champions the only counterplay is to either not get clicked on or build tanky. Barely any of the champions have any meaningful skillshots and every game pretty much just comes down to who has the stronger targeted attacks.

Mighty MorteinSep 3, 20173 votes

I think they're addressing this issue. I think they'll only allow you to turn into Shadow Assassin and your orbs will fill up the metre faster.

crzymdscntstSep 4, 20171 votes

This, but they didn't get it into this patch, so next time we get Blood Moon this should be addressed like this.

Daddy AntsSep 2, 20172 votes

Kennen isn't an assassin and needs to be removed. Ahri is technically a mage and needs to be removed, Diana is classified as a diver and needs to be removed. Pantheon is a diver and imo needs to be removed also.

Master Yi needs to be added. Kayn needs to be added. Nidalee needs to be added. Nocturne needs to be added.

TheLegalNinjaSep 2, 20175 votes

Master Yi is not gonna be added cause of his W's damage reduction and nor Nocturne because of his stats

Sire HippingtonSep 2, 20171 votes

Nocturn because of stats? Ever loked at diana's or Pant's stats? Theire choices for that mode are rather random tbh, especially Ahrie and Kennen have NO place in it if actual assasins like nocturn, wu or nida aren't allowed either.

r4ndomkillSep 3, 20171 votes

noc considered a diver not an assassin.

Sire HippingtonSep 3, 20171 votes

kennen is considered a mage and even a marksmen, but not assasin Ahrie is considered mage but not assasin Pant, diana and even Camile are conidered divers and not assasins aswell

So what's you point?

r4ndomkillSep 5, 20171 votes

you called him an actual assassin and he isnt, im not arguing he shouldent be in there its just that you classified him wrongly.