Premades is what kills solo players experience in normals, now you brought it to ranked.

PiVoRx··41 votes·3,367 views

In every game i played where premades where matched against solo players, people playing alone where totally fucked and had no fun in such matches. Why Riot want to force people to play in groups? Just fcking why.

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Raoul9 votes

I want the option to NOT PLAY with premades, not to be FORCED TO PLAY WITH EVEN MORE!

Fuck this! Seriously this is the season solo players hget baned, because the 4 man premade team will ALWAYS report the one random guy for losing the ranked.

Sauvagess1 votes

{quoted} Fuck this! Seriously this is the season solo players hget baned, because the 4 man premade team will ALWAYS report the one random guy for losing the ranked.

Considering I've gotten easily over 1,000 pop-ups saying multiple [butthurt] people have reported me after almost every single game this season kind of throws a wrench in that claim. You only get banned for breaking the rules, not just because you get reported.

Fazuzu1 votes

they still force you click 'okay' though which technically is an admission of guilt. well an acknowledgement, which is essentially an admission. homie don't play dat. hopefully someone will come up with a workaround for having to click that shit just to play again. cause, well, it is NOT okay to me. and i will no longer click that shit. I'll let the person who buys it dealw ith it form now on.

Fazuzu1 votes

yep. which has been the bright side of usually being teamed with other solo players while still facing 3 to 5 man premades in normals. won't have ranked (and aram is laughable as well with the premades and aram accounts) to goto for a balanced any more so I'm selling and not touching this turd again. and sending people to dota 2 or smite if I meet someone that hasn't actually played at leasta mobile moba by now. oh, that''s right league. you see the multitudes of failed mobas and think you can just do this crap and still keep players. wrong. some of the future mobas by other companies just get the playerbase they need to start out and succeed thanks toy ou. good job, the one thing about this you may done right (unintentional however).

Reynard the ƒox8 votes

Not to mention, my Silver/Gold friends and I could easily get Plat just by finding some cheese strategy and abusing it over and over. We'd still be Silver players, mechanically average, but our rank would be Plat just because Riot allows us to prey on less organized premades.

My friends and I wouldn't actually be improving our skills or getting better at the game, but we'll rank up anyway just because Dynamic Groups are so easily abusable and we've been playing together for years.

Gethellyann1 votes

The whole point of it is if you're trying to do that, other premades will too. The more organized you are as a team, the more often you'll be matched with other premades who are about as organized as well.

Korillo3 votes

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Not to mention, my Silver/Gold friends and I could easily get Plat just by finding some cheese strategy and abusing it over and over. We'd still be Silver players, mechanically average, but our rank would be Plat just because Riot allows us to prey on less organized premades.

My friends and I wouldn't actually be improving our skills or getting better at the game, but we'll rank up anyway just because Dynamic Groups are so easily abusable and we've been playing together for years.

You can put that theory to the test this season. Most teams that play ranked 5v5 have a much lower ladder rank than their solo queue rank (IE solo queue plat, but only silver/gold in ranked 5v5). It might be harder to cheese your way to plat than you think ;). Good luck if you try it.

Reynard the ƒox1 votes

We play Ranked 5's against Silver teams made up of Plat individuals and in most cases we've done just fine. That's what I'm basing my confidence on, but yeah, nothing's set in stone.

Fazuzu1 votes

that's because they were facing other premades genius. believe me, i played a smaller game like this where I rarely lost a match as a 4 or 5 man or 3 man even because we were on mic and knew our builds and heroes and how to handle anything we saw in game together. we always had tabs on the map through the mics, and without wards now and dealing with premades to boot... league is not worth playing without a premade any longer. sorry fanboy. or pubstomper, which ever you are. this is BAD for solo players to have removed a solo queue. no sugar coating will ever justify it. I played rnaked to get AWAY from that kind of shit int his game. used to play aram to get away from it, until aram became infested with premades using 'aram accounts' with only the broken aram champs owned in small numbers so they rerolla nd pass them along to their pickups. that was so fun. summoner's rift is boring, but once in a while I would do a few ranked or nothing at all except for check in once every couple of weeks or so to see if a new fun mode was gonna be around for barely enough to enjoy myself on this pos again. now, I won't even do that. your post pretty much helped me decide to sell the account if I get an offer, and just quit. glad I uninstalled this pos a couple weeks ago. I will never toucht his turd again. enjoy 'pubstomping noobz lulzorzlulzorzlulzorz' you fuckin prick.

I bet you're the special kind of asshole that will run a level 1 gank squad aorund the map now taking advantage of the fact that riot decided to kill warding for the lulz right fater allowing you pricks to team up on ranked players. riot is manned by fucking psychopaths and over half the playerbase probably are as well... fucking confirmed for this to be acceptable

Korillo1 votes

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that's because they were facing other premades genius. believe me, i played a smaller game like this where I rarely lost a match as a 4 or 5 man or 3 man even because we were on mic and knew our builds and heroes and how to handle anything we saw in game together. we always had tabs on the map through the mics, and without wards now and dealing with premades to boot... league is not worth playing without a premade any longer. sorry fanboy. or pubstomper, which ever you are. this is BAD for solo players to have removed a solo queue. no sugar coating will ever justify it. I played rnaked to get AWAY from that kind of shit int his game. used to play aram to get away from it, until aram became infested with premades using 'aram accounts' with only the broken aram champs owned in small numbers so they rerolla nd pass them along to their pickups. that was so fun. summoner's rift is boring, but once in a while I would do a few ranked or nothing at all except for check in once every couple of weeks or so to see if a new fun mode was gonna be around for barely enough to enjoy myself on this pos again. now, I won't even do that. your post pretty much helped me decide to sell the account if I get an offer, and just quit. glad I uninstalled this pos a couple weeks ago. I will never toucht his turd again. enjoy 'pubstomping noobz lulzorzlulzorzlulzorz' you fuckin prick.

I bet you're the special kind of asshole that will run a level 1 gank squad aorund the map now taking advantage of the fact that riot decided to kill warding for the lulz right fater allowing you pricks to team up on ranked players. riot is manned by fucking psychopaths and over half the playerbase probably are as well... fucking confirmed for this to be acceptable

lol I'm not sure what I said exactly that got you so riled up. Premades will still face other premades in the same system (95% chance at least so I'm told) so nothing will change there.

I'm unsure yet if it will hurt solo queuers or not. Probably hurt them slightly, but I don't think it will be too significant. It could be rather unpleasant to play as a solo player with a 4 man team though. I guess we'll find out whenever they implement the new system.

As far as me pubstompin noobz, I'm not sure where that comment comes from. I always solo queue, have never duo queued even and will continue to solo queue when the new season gets here.

Semantic3 votes

I was honestly hoping for the end of DUO queues and make Ranked Solo truly a SOLO Experience. This is the exact opposite. I am distressed.

Specter0273 votes

The worst experiences I've ever had playing this game were in dealing with premades. Either from groups of bullies on my team, or they were on the other team and stomped my squad with an unmatched coordination that saw the game effectively end before 15 minutes.

I started playing Solo Queue not to see how I fared, or to climb, but because I was looking for a competitive game with a level playing field where I could avoid the 3 - 4 man groups. I enjoyed Solo Queue, although I was nervous when I started playing it, I found it was about as toxic as my normal draft and it seemed to be more evenly matched - also, every one came to compete (for the most part).

I hate to idea of groups in solo-queue. I liked getting to gold ranking. If I had more time maybe I would've climbed higher. Groups screw up the idea of competitive integrity of solo queue. I don't want to be matched with groups and I don't want to have to play against super-coordinated groups while stuck on a team that barely even pings.

WhammyKablammy2 votes

For the most part, I would say the vast majority, Riot balances the team with premades. For example if there is a three man on one team there will also be one on the other. The same thing happens in ranked.

Fazuzu1 votes

let me tell you for years this was NOT the case for me. where were the 3 or 4 man I got paired with when being pubstomped in normals? actually, I am kind of thankful for having a bunch of other solo player son my teams... since often winding up on the sid eof a premade gets you reported the minnute anything goes wrong and that's even when you simply mute them all and don't ask them to kindly stfu and play. good riddance to this piece of shit.

Dukues2 votes

The game IMO is always more fun playing with friends than it is by yourself. So in some respect I see what their going for. However, players do not always have friends online or always want to make new friends all the time, which this new system is now going to force on us. I really see no point in trying to rank up by yourself with this premade groups system, as it is going to be much harder than teaming up. And from a player who plays a few hundred solo ranked games a season, this really worries me.

We will see, but at this time I feel I will probably not be playing much ranked (so therefore this game) next season.

TSR Yangire2 votes

I have no normal game matches on my main account (baek ma ri) in the entirity of last 2 seasons simply because i was afraid to get 3-4 premades in my games. As of now the game is unplayable for me. It has been a nice 4 years where i played this game but i guess it's time to move on. Everyone who is staying, enjoy and have a great time in solo queue.

Fazuzu1 votes

after 4 years you need to sell that and get some money back form it lol.

Only Play Darius2 votes

According to Riot Lyte, "Our studies have show people have more fun overall in league matches when they are playing with their friends, and when playing with friends have fun even when they lose a game, which leads to an overall less toxic game. In the end, League is better with friends, which is why we created dynamic queue"

Frankly Riot doesn't care about solo players, and its been like this ever since they replaced double IP weekends with group IP weekends and even the pool party points only being obtainable by premade groups. I've been saying for a while that this trend of pushing people into playing premade is going to fundamentally change the game but I was dismissed.

what you deserve1 votes

It balances premades with other premades. Soloqueue is what messed me up last season because I can't stop myself from being matched with super toxic players.

Fazuzu1 votes

it balances premades against solo players from years of personal experience. where's the red in your name, buddy? I wouldn't log on to my employee account either if i were to lie to people about broken matchmaking in my game.

what you deserve1 votes

I mean, you could whine at me about something that's already been addressed, or you could go look up where it's been addressed. I don't really care.

Lockenster1 votes

i play rank solo style all the time. i honestly don't know how this gonna affect me

Fazuzu1 votes

it will impact you badly. especially if rank USED to be the place you could count on a more balanced match, with nothing more than what seemed to be the extremely rare multiple sets of duos (still not bad really from personal experience) to deal with.

Korillo1 votes

Ya that basically just reinforces my point, is that all those players are individually in Plat but in their ranked 5s they are in silver :p

Flawless Fetus1 votes

It's not live, is it?

The Tilted King1 votes

yea... i dont have friends that will play league with me >.>

Fazuzu1 votes

best advice, and i advise you to pass the advice around, is to uninstall this piece of shit. and sell your account if you put a lot of money into it, to get some returns on it. because it will not get better, only worse. the longer you hold onto it in the hopes they will stop making the game worse, the less value your untouched account will hold. words from the wise. i don't give games chances any longer, once they have gone too far downhill. There's always a regret in that. trust me, sell it , uninstal, move on to Dota 2 or Smite. You have allt he champs free in Dota 2, and can design and sell skins even, rather than pay for them on top of paying for the heroes. league is a ripoff imho. and now it's unplayable without at least 2 friends to boot. there are left 4 dead and vermintide if you wish to play a game that requires at least a couple of other people that you know. they're far better than this. and a one time payment. no microtransactions for every class you wanna use.

the only way I would have stuck with this game as a solo player would be if I were given an invite to one of the exclusive script kiddy clubs those cheaters use. I was never given one, so I am unable to compete against 3 to 5 man premades now in every mode and therefor uninstalled a couple of weeks ago and plan to sell the account if I can get at least 100 dollars for it. the game only gets worse from here, take it from soneone who has seen good games go bad more than once. it's run it's lifespan for the type of player that we are, time for us to move on to greener pastures.

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