Important things to note about runes when considering compensation.

Gosh Darn·Jun 3, 2017·70 votes·7,027 views

Runes are/were mandatory in competitive. You were at a hopeless disadvantage if you didn't have the basic runes (which is still 10s of thousands of IP), and you were still at a fairly large disadvantage if you didn't have the more niche runes such as mr/lvl for junglers.
People who purchased runes were purchasing runes instead of champions. I would have loved to have 10+ 6300 IP champions to choose from for the past year but I got runes instead.
IP boosts were primarily purchased for runes. The people who spent 60$ on stacking both IP boosts so they didn't have to play for 2 years to get the decent runes should not get fucked over. Obviously everyone's IP spent on runes is equally valuable, whether or not they purchased a boost, I'm just trying to make a point that real money was spent on runes and rune pages. They weren't free, so making the new rune system free and rationalizing bad compensation with the new system being "free" will not fly with us.
Several runes were made useless with the lethality changes. I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I happened to get AR pen marks + quints and hybrid pen marks right before the lethality changes. I've used the AR pen runes once in pvp before I realized they were not viable. These should have been refunded with the lethality changes, but since it's too late for that, they should be considered before assuming players already got their value out of runes.

My point is, runes were a huge investment purchased at the expense of having a smaller champion roster. Making them free is great, but the fact of the matter is that people who bought tons of runes and rune pages will have effectively wasted RP and IP if they are not fairly compensated. If you're happy to get nothing, good for you, but you don't speak for everyone. I've still got plenty more champions and skins I need to purchase, so I'd like compensation worth at least half of what I've spent on runes, whether it's IP, RP, chests, whatever, all I'm asking is that it's fair.

So, that was a horrible comparison. And internet companies wouldn't do that, because it would be a stupid business decision on their part. If they d/c'ed you, they'd find some legal reason to do it, (like traffic through someplace like piratebay). They wouldn't just randomly do it, cause it would cost them money, and reputation as a company.

Riot, however, does not have that kind of contract. Their contract, is, yes, they can terminate service at any time for no reason. But, still, it would be a stupid business decision on their part to actually do that. (They'll always give you a reason for deleting/banning your account, you might not agree with the reason, but they'll have a reason.)

Same with partial services, like..runes, skins, champions. They aren't going to just delete shit without a reason. And they've already flat out said they'd compensate players in some form or another, they just aren't telling how/or probably even know how to go about that yet. Because straight IP refunds has problems. And also 0 IP refunds has problems.

Also that would inflate the hell out of IP in general, which Riot needs to keep at somewhat of a reasonable level. Or they'll have to start charging more for champions. (Which, they likely will have to do anyway, or have to lower IP gain rates.)

Comparing food place closing down is also a bad comparison, because, we're talking product already owned, vs ability to buy future product. And intangible product vs tangible. You're talking comparing a store closing down, vs a store demanding that you give them something you already bought, back to them, without a recall fee.

Walmart ain't gonna demand you to return a TV you bought from them. And if they did, people would just laugh and tell walmart to fk off and keep their TV. McDonald's ain't gonna demand you give them their bigmac back after you've already taken a bite out of it. Not without giving you a reason and either a replacement, or your money back.

But in the intangible product world, companies can do that. But it's still a bad business decision to actually do that, at least with out reason & some compensation. It's just bad logic to expect anything else.

Important things to note about runes when considering compensation.

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This thread is more about discussing those problems and hopefully finding some middleground/alternative solution to those problems.

Also that would inflate the hell out of IP in general, which Riot needs to keep at somewhat of a reasonable level. Or they'll have to start charging more for champions. (Which, they likely will have to do anyway, or have to lower IP gain rates.)

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