We need to nerf varus now, as after next patch he'll be alone in the S tier category with every other adc nerfed out of it.
Surprised hes being completely ignored, possibly a varus main in the live design team hehe.
2Charmnot2Charm37 voteshttps://i.imgur.com/Nu5oNcF.png give Meddler some more time to climb out of gold first.
Rexxiee18 voteshttps://i.imgur.com/Nu5oNcF.png give Meddler some more time to climb out of gold first.
LMAO, it was way too obvious.
Sun Wu Ryuumoku3 votesits his creation...
meowwow73 votesthe most disturbing part for me isn't even the fact he is using varus alot it's the control ward count in the game time
T4underbolt10 votesYeah. And when I said that riot balance team just simply abuses broken picks to climb and they allow broken champs to go through PBE so them and bad players can get free elo, everyone was saying its just a conspiracy theory.
Blåbæret7 votesYeah. And when I said that riot balance team just simply abuses broken picks to climb and they allow broken champs to go through PBE so them and bad players can get free elo, everyone was saying its just a conspiracy theory.
Word.
Fanboys will always dowvote that which does not adhere to their opinion; they don't have a mind of their own.
Hayaishi8 votesNerf Varus? How does this even have upvotes in a world where Xayah exist.
You nerf Varus and he goes straight into F tier, since the only reason he's even good it's because rage blade is strong. Don't know how you can nerf his kit any further after they gutted his Q.
Also could it be that Meddler is trying out Varus to see if and how he should be nerfed? I mean he only has 25 games with him and Varus has been strong for far more time.
Disembark2 votesI mean he’s been S tier since preseason 7.
He goes through phases of ER build/Lethality build/Onhit build but he’s almost ALWAYS S tier.
Since all other lane bullies have gotten nerfed over the past couple seasons (Kalista, Lucian, Cait, Ashe), he is now THE PREMIER lane bully, with utility, and is a tank shredding hypercarry.
Hayaishi1 votesI mean he’s been S tier since preseason 7.
He goes through phases of ER build/Lethality build/Onhit build but he’s almost ALWAYS S tier.
Since all other lane bullies have gotten nerfed over the past couple seasons (Kalista, Lucian, Cait, Ashe), he is now THE PREMIER lane bully, with utility, and is a tank shredding hypercarry.
ER has never been "S tier" ER build has and will always be trash on Varus. Yes he was OP with lethality and then completely gutted, he's only good because of rage blade.
How do you even nerf him atm without shoving him back to unviable? Varus had NEVER been a viable bot lane pick before lethality.
He's not a hypercarry either, he falls off very hard late game against tanks because MR cuts a lot of his damage and he doesn't do % on every autoattack like kogmaw he has to use his spells and when they are on cooldown (Q and E have 12 and 10 CD respectively at max rank) his damage goes down BY ALOT.
If Riot is considering nerfing Varus they should rebalance his kit. His Q is a pretty bad ability right now, his E is awful too, he is pretty much only good because of his W.
How do you nerf him? He has a lot of weakness that his stats don't show.
saltran6 votesOr maybe start nerfing/increse cost of adc items rather than nerfing every adc that's strong, at least for now.
And if after the items nerf they still need nerfs go ahead but they should realize that a really big part of the problem is adc items.
GayFluffyUnicorn2 votes^
JackMcSnipeyz4 votesCant stand this "someone doesnt agree with me he must be an X main le xD". Im not even against varus nerfs i hate him, but for some reason the balance team shift their main every time it's convinient for the OP to be salty.
Sun Wu Ryuumoku2 votesmeddler is varus creator iirc.
Śhunpo3 votesVarus has a 30%+ pick rate and a ~52% winrate. That is not balanced in the slightest. Additionally Guinsoo's needs a nerf, it's a disgusting item.
y0r1ck1 votesLol... yeah it's slightly balanced. 52% winrate is ok all things considered. Problem is the 30% pick rate, combined with a decent winrate like that, it's a little bit meta defining. Honestly I think just taking 5-10 damage off of his level 1-3 game would be good enough until adc items are looked at.
Daddy Ants1 votesVarus has a 30%+ pick rate and a ~52% winrate. That is not balanced in the slightest. Additionally Guinsoo's needs a nerf, it's a disgusting item.
Guinsoo's is breaking Varus.
ThePaperlucky1 votesVarus has a 30%+ pick rate and a ~52% winrate. That is not balanced in the slightest. Additionally Guinsoo's needs a nerf, it's a disgusting item.
Nerf both, and you'll send him to meme tier. This is the exact way Rito has been handeling nerfs in the past, and the only thing that come down of these conjoined nerfs are more balancing problem.
ThePikol2 votesWhat trist nerfs? I see her range buffs on PBE
saltran4 votesYou probably need glasses if you saw a range buff to Tristana on PBE.
ThePikol1 voteshttp://www.surrenderat20.net/2018/02/223-pbe-update-tentative-balance-changes.html
Draw a Bead (Passive)
Attack range and cast range of Explosive Charge increased from [0/7/14/21/28/35/42/49/56/63/70/77/84/91/98/105/112/119] to [0/8/16/24/32/40/48/56/64/72/80/88/96/104/112/120/128/136]
In the same post you can read: "[Note: Tristana has other changes in testing on the PBE, including attack range lowered to 525!]"
She starts with 25 range less but she gets a little more range every lvl.
Anyway at lvl 18 she has less range in the PBE vs Live, so it's a huge nerf to her early and a less strong nerf when she lvls up, but she is not getting more range in every single moment of the game, it's a range nerf. (And I'm not saying that she doesn't deserve it, but it's a nerf, not a buff)
option paralysis2 votesare there any xayah nerfs ? cuz she's the 2nd coming of tristana. her W dmg is insane with crits and E root and ulty are too good.
Torgal2 votesVarus and Xayah need nerfs too.
Somebody Love Me1 votesTwitch will be there too, since his nerfs really didn't affect him.
no to toxic1 votes48% winrate with a 3% playrate . Atleast the name fits.
MeloveRenekton1 votesMore than likely a side effect of the nerfs making the sheep shy away from the champ. They see "nerf" and think "oh he must be shit-tier"
The thing that made Twitch cancer to begin with is still intact, and he still does his job.
To say he was unaffected is a stretch, but they didn't hurt him too badly. When Trist goes down, we might see him come back up unless another change says otherwise.
Trist mid opop1 votesU mean the 25less range early game and 40extra basedmg on W? The Q changes got reverted
NekoniClaws1 votesI came to your thread bein' like, "Yeah, can't wait for Varus ner--
They're NOT nerfing Varus??"
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