Riot is continuing their disturbing trend of entirely ignoring the opinions of their community

MonkeyMadness··47 votes·2,596 views

Remember that whole thing Riot did in season 6 where they thought it would be really cool if they let 3, 4, and 5 man premades queue up against teams of 5 solo players for ranked (aka Dynamic Queue)? Remember how vocally we opposed it? These boards became the epitome of internet vitriol for the better part of a year due to Riot's little "experiment". After that colossal failure, it seemed like they were finally caving to community opinions as they started promising things like a new client, replay editor, sandbox mode, and finally, the end of DQ (only one of which has actually been delivered to date, btw). It seemed like Riot was finally starting to cater to the opinions of their players.

But then came autofill. Now, I will be the first to admit, I didn't really think autofill was that bad, and honestly I still don't. To date, I've been autofilled only a couple times (granted I have been playing mostly normals lately) and I legitimately don't mind playing support. In fact, I would regularly queue jungle/support if that didn't guarantee that I'd almost never get my main role. However, regardless of my own personal opinion, it is clear that the community is in overwhelming opposition to autofill, at least at the lower ranks. And yet, after well over a month, no word from Riot on this matter. Have they forgotten how bad shit got last season already? People legitimately left the game because of how terrible the ranked community got. Now, granted, pro players will have no comment on this change, as they are entirely unaffected, but if that is the only reason Riot won't listen then I find it all the more disturbing.

126 Comments

JackMcSnipeyz35 votes

What? A few people spam threads against something and riot doesnt immidiatly change it?

If riot would make their decision based on upvotes, we'd have yasuo and fizz deleted from the game, only URF mode 24/7, and pretty much every champion gutted.

Thankfully, i can rest well at night knowing the boards dont make the final decisions

Also, dont forget that before in blind pick you'd get support way more than now. And that before autofill, you'd have way longer que times, sorry, you cant eat the entire cake and keep it too.

Dynikus13 votes

before autofill, you'd have way longer que times

In higher elos, yes. In low elos, not really. They effectively "shortened" queue times by a few minutes, but increased the number of games people dodge, effectively increasing queue times.

Wicked FlamezZ4 votes

Maybe if people didn't have to be play carries every game autofill wouldn't need to exist. Their are way too many yas's and not enough tarics. Everyone wants to be the 21-0-15 carry but near NOBODY wants to be the tank/support that got them there in the first place.

Personally this is why I like flex queue. I queue up with my friends irl and we can make an actual team comp instead of a mix mash of assassins and carries. SoloQ is basically ranked one for all lol. Unless you play a tank their is NO tank. Even though a well balanced team should probably have 2 tanks. A "super" tank for peel and a off tank bruiser.

But you rarely see that in Solo because it's about the twitch, the yas, the riven, the akali, the katarina, the zed, the kennen.

DarkRitual3 votes

I always cringe when my team picks 4 physical damage squishy champs and asks me to pick a suport tank last pick. Bonus points for Rammus/Malphite on enemy team.

If iur teamcomp is going to be garbage either way, I'm gonna decide if we're missing a tank or missing Magic damage. Or I'll lock in Wizard Garen.

Fondling Gems2 votes

Swain support, try it, trust me. But give me like 1 day before trusting me because I need to go uhh... test some... things.... yeah.......

Sun Wu Ryuumoku3 votes

What? A few people spam threads against something and riot doesnt immidiatly change it?

A whole year of league of premade...

JackMcSnipeyz5 votes

DynamicQ was also blown outta proportion by a vocal minority who'd circlejerk themselves, blaming anything on premades.

Riot changed it this season, and in a way it appeals both dynamicQ players and solo players, so good on them for taking their time and not going:"HOLY SHIT THIS SILVER 5 PLAYER GOT 100 UPVOTES?? SCRAP EVERYTHING!!"

Sun Wu Ryuumoku2 votes

dynamicq was bullsht tbh... but new queue solo is stupid too... why don't make a ranked full solo and other with premade or any sht ??

But yeah too much much Silver sh*t on this board

JackMcSnipeyz2 votes

See?? You actuallu got back old soloQ and you're still! Not! Happy! This is exactly what im talking about, you cant please everyone.

BluePolarizer14 votes

back in the pick order days, you were guaranteed to play support at a higher rate than autofill, especially in very low elo (bronze/silver).

zacktootall5 votes

ok... welcome to now, your point?

Flaherty7 votes

Things have been worse before and Riot improved it with role selection, which lead to higher queue times that people complained a lot about, which lead to autofill improving queue times and still being better than pick order but people still complain.

Erockandroll1 votes

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Things have been worse before and Riot improved it with role selection, which lead to higher queue times that people complained a lot about, which lead to autofill improving queue times and still being better than pick order but people still complain.

I think the next step is to clarify how Auto fill protection works, and make absolutely sure it works as intended.

If auto fill protection worked in a consistent manor, you would at least have the ability to work around getting autofilled all the time. And it would encourage more people to actually fill or support, just to earn that protection.

It Hertz When IP2 votes

All they need to do is make it so if someone else queue dodges you're still protected.

ProfDrDeath1 votes

But only if someone else dodges - not if you dodge yourself.

It Hertz When IP2 votes

Exactly.

Surr20plz8 votes

Stop whining.

Holy shit.

ModAcademy Kayn6 votes

Because a lot of time the Community's Opinion is kinda unfounded and baseless, based around their own personal problem that they've masked under a general complaint.

Cosmic Warper5 votes

Disturbing trend? No... most of the community is bad at the game. They should almost always balance for the most competitive brackets (high elo, LCS) AKA, the top 1% of players. Listening to whining brats gets you nowhere

Dynikus3 votes

This has nothing to do with balance though, it's about autofill. I'm assuming you just read the title and felt like adding your 2 cents?

MonkeyMadness1 votes

Your superiority complex does not impress me bud. Get out if you have nothing valid to contribute.

Cosmic Warper1 votes

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Your superiority complex does not impress me bud. Get out if you have nothing valid to contribute.

just because i said everyone was garbage, doesn't make me good lul, but ok :>

MonkeyMadness1 votes

To say other people are garbage is an obvious attempt to place yourself above them. Stop pretending that's not what you're doing.

Cosmic Warper1 votes

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To say other people are garbage is an obvious attempt to place yourself above them. Stop pretending that's not what you're doing.

k lul

MonkeyMadness1 votes

Please delete your comments, you aren't welcome here.

Cosmic Warper1 votes

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Please delete your comments, you aren't welcome here.

commenting in a dead thread lul

MonkeyMadness1 votes

Commenting on my own thread moron...

Cosmic Warper1 votes

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Commenting on my own thread moron...

??? still a dead thread. wasting your time friendo

MonkeyMadness1 votes

I'm getting daily comments how is this dead? Please just leave, you are either a troll or a complete idiot and either way I really don't want to see your brand of vitriol.

Cosmic Warper1 votes

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I'm getting daily comments how is this dead? Please just leave, you are either a troll or a complete idiot and either way I really don't want to see your brand of vitriol.

daily comments...the last two comments were a few hours ago and before that it was 5 days ago. necroposting lul

MonkeyMadness1 votes

I responded to no fewer than 5 comments yesterday alone. WTF is your problem? Do you feel the need to ridicule and discredit anyone that disagrees with you? Sure as hell seems like it. I feel so bad for people like you. It must suck to live with such low self esteem.

Cosmic Warper1 votes

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I responded to no fewer than 5 comments yesterday alone. WTF is your problem? Do you feel the need to ridicule and discredit anyone that disagrees with you? Sure as hell seems like it. I feel so bad for people like you. It must suck to live with such low self esteem.

Nah, it's just fun watching you assume shit and be angry on a video game forum at another person :>

Oleandervine4 votes

Autofill isn't the problem. People refusing to play alternate roles is the problem.

DarkRitual2 votes

This.

Like... play Blitz for a game or something. Tada, no autofill for a few more games! If not Blitz, find a single champ you don't completely suck supporting with.

Sometimes you have to walk through mud to play in the park.

SteelMankind4 votes

Maybe its because they know better than the community, who are all salty/biased against the champions who counter their main

MonkeyMadness2 votes

Hmm...so you're telling me that a few hundred (maybe) people know what millions of people like better than those millions of people? Kind of a scary notion tbh...

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Considering that those few hundred people aren't saturatrd with salt, bais, and are screaming for their counters to be nerfed, I believe so.

Not to mention that Riot has the big picture and the people on the boards don't.

MonkeyMadness1 votes

You need to read up on how bad China and Tencent is for this game. You wouldn't make retarded claims like this if you actually had any knowledge of how bad it has gotten.

Also, please tell me how this post has ANYTHING to do with counters getting nerfed or balance issues at all? This post is purely on principle. I don't even really mind autofill, but the VAST majority of the boards community does (implying that a VAST majority of the players that actually care about the game also hate it). Get off your high horse and accept the fact that you are simply a contrarian.

Linna Excel3 votes

Riot's going to need 3 months of data to see auto-fill is an issue followed by waiting until the next preseason to delete it because they don't want to do that kind of change mid season.

MonkeyMadness2 votes

Whoever downvoted this is either an idiot or Riot Socrates...

Jabberwöcky2 votes

I personally stopped playing cause of auto fill.

Ruined my Placements, not even going to finish them, i quit and moved on to another game, and have hope this game will get better.

Nameless Voice2 votes

I don't mind being autofilled occasionally, but I'm getting really sick of the increased time to get into games because I usually have to go through 2-3 champion selects per game due to the autofilled players dodging.

Hotaru is Waifu2 votes

upvote upvote upvote upvote

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

Don't forget a significant portion of the player base has left over the past couple years, because they refused (or willfully ignored) balance issues that they purposely made.

http://www.pvpdatabase.com/?p=468

Jorencice1 votes

Weird. Because in 2013 they made 643 million and in 2015 they made 1.6 billion.

That doesnt seem like a playerbase that is getting smaller to me.

Guess we will see when the post 2016 revenues in a couple of months.

Not to mentiom that article uses viewship as a method to determine playerbase.

And im calling shenanigans.

Viewership for almost everything is down and no one knows why. Almost every single youtuber is showing a downturn in views.

Same with twitch.

ZT Xperimentor2 votes

The game design shift in season 3 during the china take over was noticeable however. But if you weren't playing in season 2, you wouldn't know that.

Jorencice1 votes

Ive been playing aince season 1.

And ive noticed no shift.

Its still "kill the enemy nexus" as far as i know.

Also that still doesnt explain the almost 3x increase in revenue if the game was "dieing"

Dominick Destine1 votes

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Ive been playing aince season 1.

And ive noticed no shift.

There was a shift but it was more to the extent of "Let's make the game philosphy more leftist/feminist" rather than "Let's make the game intrinsically worse".

Jorencice2 votes

What...are...you...talking about?

Ive seen no SJW bullshit going on?

Ive seen no stright chars made gay for no reason.

Ive seen no reduction in breast sizes.

Frost butt irelia still exists...

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

Within the game no, read some patch notes across the years, you'll see what I mean. There's an increase in players from riot advertising the game as a 'sport', but older time players have been leaving because the toxicity has also increased significantly. Just try bashing some vaguely famous sports team, the fans are obsessive.

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