How do you win games vs. super safe lanes ?

option paralysis·Apr 21, 2019·10 votes·7,182 views

I don't understand how can you win a game when you play vs. someone who plays super safe with fuckin' neeko or lux or some sht. Farms from nexus and if you try to do anything just stuns and runs away. Meanwhile your whole team is feeding.

And in this stupid ass meta if you're not fed, you're not gonna carry shit. So, how do I win the game if I can't get fed and all my lanes are losing ? I can't roam 'cuz they're dead all the time and I lose like 2 waves for free. My enemy laner doesn't need to roam since his team is winning and what ? I just patiently wait for the "defeat" screen ?

15 Comments

azazxerApr 21, 20193 votes

Play the map, also harrass the enemy jg/track him, im assuming your mid lane right?

CrystalyskApr 22, 20193 votes

If your enemy plays safe you just push the lane and dive him with your jungler. Assuming you guys know how to dive early game, otherwise you will probably feed a double kill mid.

Flawless FetusApr 22, 20193 votes

Try to stall until 35+ mins where everybody has items regardless of how shit they did.

SaezioApr 22, 20193 votes

You are not supposed to win with 1 equal lane when you lost 2 lanes and jungle. Is this not obvious?

GreenetteApr 21, 20192 votes

Games still swing wildly, it's not impossible to get a lucky kill and just bulldoze their nexus. The only time it feels like you're just waiting for defeat is when an adc or jungler is fed, and their obviously the most skillful person on both teams.

But I have something else to add. You're a mid laner, fighting a safe enemy you can't kill, and somehow theres never a good time to roam because your allies are always dead.

The obvious solution is to push and recall, or push and roam right after your top laner respawns. He won't be dead if you time your gank to his spawn timer, or better yet if you just take initiative and gank his lane at 6.

For real, as a top lane main if mids just took their lvl6 top lane games would be so much easier. Getting carries fed is still the easiest way to win fast but a fed top laner secures your early and mid game.

Top lane is such a fragile lane, if you put a top laner behind far enough the game is a 4v5 until they scale - if they have conq. If he's running something else it takes even longer to get back in the game.

Hayaishi2Apr 22, 20192 votes

Play something that can scale too?

Handy Sandy Apr 22, 20192 votes

try to do anything just stuns and runs away

dodge the stun

if you're not fed, you're not gonna carry

if they play super safe neither are they

learn how to position the wave to set up for a roam and dive bot lane/invade jg

Ahri BakaApr 22, 20192 votes

Roam.

xDanceGavinDanceApr 21, 20191 votes

Pretty Much, unless you are a Late game Champ and pray to god the enemy team slips up. But even still, Sometimes aint shit you can do but take a lose.

SweedishGunnerApr 21, 20191 votes

Either you kill them, roam or do the same as they are depending on what champion you pick. If you're playing Zed and you've scared the enemy mid into taking no risks then congratulations. However if your team is feeding then it doesn't matter what role or champ you're playing tbh.

FSRERApr 22, 20191 votes

You are absolutely right. For example, there is absolutely nothing you can do against a kennen toplaner other than to play 1 certain champion ( Vladimir ) in order to survive laning phase without going 0/5 but then again, the enemy picking kennen is a almost insta defeat for you because if the kennen and the enemy team knows what to do you won't be able to do anything. Champions like him who have ultra safe but also heavily damaging abilitys which also do not fall off mid or late game should get nerfed and kennen is not the only one who does that.

Minimac2000Apr 22, 20192 votes

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You are absolutely right. For example, there is absolutely nothing you can do against a kennen toplaner other than to play 1 certain champion () in order to survive laning phase without going 0/5 but then again, the enemy picking kennen is a almost insta defeat for you because if the kennen and the enemy team knows what to do you won't be able to do anything. Champions like him who have ultra safe but also heavily damaging abilitys which also do not fall off mid or late game should get nerfed and kennen is not the only one who does that.

It's pretty much over if they pick Vladimir too unless you manage to get some broken crap like Riven or Kayle