Can Cass get a clear indication that target is poisoned?

xxxMadLionxxx··91 votes·2,554 views

I'm sure Im not the only one who waits to be sure my target is actually poisoned when I barely landed my Q. Can Cass get a clear indicator that the target is poisoned so she can react quicker?

Also, a duration timer of the poison would help.

These are not buffs numbers wise, just more helpful info to allow players to make better decisions within the tight window they have.

45 Comments

Oleandervine13 votes

She needs a marker like Twitch has or Kalista has or Zilean has or Tristana has or Kindred has or Kennen has or Braum has... it begins to make you wonder why she doesn't have markers actually.

xxxMadLionxxx7 votes

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She needs a marker like Twitch has or Kalista has or Zilean has or Tristana has or Kindred has or Kennen has or Braum has... it begins to make you wonder why she doesn't have markers actually.

yea

Something like Yasuo ult indicator too

My Waifu Vanilla2 votes

I honestly think something along the lines of Yasuo E/Udyr E indicator would work fine too to show how long they are poisoned for. This doesn't matter nearly as much now that her E isn't completely useless on non-poisoned targets (suffering like 8x the CD), but nevertheless it should probably happen regardless for summoner 13

Karma Deified1 votes

Or she could have an indicator like Cassiopeia had.

Zerolera8 votes

It's unfortunately one of the reasons that Rylai's is just so good on her. The people affected are clearly marked when you hit them with your poison.

Evewynn1 votes

But you still don't know how long it lasts if you follow up with e.

A Liberal2 votes

I mean i'm not sure if that's the PRIMARY reason buuuuut xD

I agree though, new posion indicator needs to go. Never had an issue with it until this patch.

Remnar5 votes

Agreed, hard to tel if Q lands sometimes. I suggest a small purple snake above their heads?

questir3 votes

I asked this like a one or two years ago when they just reworked Cassio and I got a response from Morello and Stashu telling me they were interested of doing this but they didn't have the "technology" at that time to create an indicator. Sounds like BS if you ask me

Snaketits1 votes

A multi billion dollar company which doesn't have the "technology" to add a visual effect? Truly the biggest lie they could come up with. Let's face it, they're either too lazy or they simply do not care. Few other champs could gain some improved visibility from this (Teemo and Singed) and yet Riot ignores the matter completely.

Goosetard2 votes

It's not a bubbly thing anymore?

Rings like for naut and udyr seem like they'd be really appropriate here.

Ahegao Bunny2 votes

This idea is 100 times better than the rework.

Nymeara1 votes

Just pay attention to your move speed buff are you fast with a trail behind you you poisoned them

And missing your poison isn't even punishing anymore your first e will tell you if you missed and it's time to back off or not

xxxMadLionxxx4 votes

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Just pay attention to your move speed buff are you fast with a trail behind you you poisoned them

And missing your poison isn't even punishing anymore your first e will tell you if you missed and it's time to back off or not

I understand all that, but if i poison multiple targets, my move speed buff will not tell me which one. And using E on a non poison target waste mana. Against Zed in lane, you can't afford to waste mana.

yrknaqren3 votes

If youre laning against a Zed and are close enough to poison on _multiple _champions you better gtfo or you will likely get murdered by them, no?^^

Ahegao Bunny1 votes

stupid range nerf of Q

Average Bard1 votes

Is it poison or invenomation

Aeszarck1 votes

You are thinking on the right track; poison is ingested. Invenomation sounds kind of weird though.

Average Bard2 votes

I know, but is when dealing with snakes it's most likely venom

xxxMadLionxxx1 votes

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I know, but is when dealing with snakes it's most likely venom

Really, you guys are arguing about the correct term for her poison?

Average Bard1 votes

What? We're bringing real life terminology into a game?

Aeszarck2 votes

We're not arguing.

Aeszarck1 votes

Okay, found it, it's envenomation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Envenomation

You were really close.

Average Bard1 votes

cool

ImmortalBloodCY1 votes

Good question.

Mazariamonti1 votes

It's not a 5 second difference if you hit a non poisoned enemy anymore so I don't really think it's a big deal like it used to be

xxxMadLionxxx3 votes

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It's not a 5 second difference if you hit a non poisoned enemy anymore so I don't really think it's a big deal like it used to be

How quickly you react can make the difference in landing the last E on a fleeing target in land especially if they has a dash

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

I agree that it's less of a problem now, but it still should be clearer.

Nymeara1 votes

Ya that example was weird is it one e against zed in lane which u will be able to tell if you have yor speed buff or multiple enemies where it's later in the game and one e will go unnoticed? For the record I play a lot of cass pre rework I just never had this clarity issue

xxxMadLionxxx1 votes

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Ya that example was weird is it one e against zed in lane which u will be able to tell if you have yor speed buff or multiple enemies where it's later in the game and one e will go unnoticed? For the record I play a lot of cass pre rework I just never had this clarity issue

I've been in lane low on health and playing it safe hoping to land my Q. Sometime it just barely hits the target, but I can't afford to not be sure because I'm low.

The clarity would make a difference by 0.5 -1 seconds in my reaction. That extra reaction time can add 1 or 2 more E in my attack. When dealing with team fights where there is a ton of spell effects happening or target are clumped together, you need to know who is poisoned and who is not.

Poop Jelly1 votes

Oh yes, one of my concern as well... Maybe purple the target a little bit or something would be nice

Alleo1 votes

I find the magic damage numbers to be decent for it but if they added something like they did to her W that would be good.

ModAcademy Kayn1 votes

She;s always had this problem and it's one of the main reasons she's had a high skill rating in the past. Since E is an actual low CD now, it doesn't matter as much as it used to before.

xxxMadLionxxx2 votes

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She;s always had this problem and it's one of the main reasons she's had a high skill rating in the past. Since E is an actual low CD now, it doesn't matter as much as it used to before.

I still does because if target is not poison and you're spamming her new E, you burning mana while doing no damage. This is detrimental in the laning phase especially against Zed

ModAcademy Kayn1 votes

Not as much as before. Any person before any of the Cass reworks have always had to keep track of their poisons by themselves, looking for the bubble over the enemies head to see if they are. Keep track of the bubbles, and you're K.

A Liberal1 votes

Yeah TBH her new posion indicator is an indirect nerf... I can't tell if the enemy is posioned or not 1/2 the time. Make it bigger, give them a rylai'sesque purple tone, a zyra target indicator, SOMETHING.

Occams Raiser1 votes

I wish they would turn colors like in other games. I lose a second confirming.

Blainezy1 votes

Like, like maybe a purple teardrop above their heads, or purple aura on their feet.. Would be nice.

RisenDarkKnight1 votes

Yeah the old "poisoned" indicator was way more obvious. The new one is way more subtle. I had trouble telling as well.

Theiki Kayle1 votes

It has some kind of ticking for Q, at least I hear a ticking sound I didn't hear before when I play her and hit someone with Q.

It's a bit annoying and not enough. I agree on more clarity. Even the purple cloud above their head being a bit bigger would suffice.

xxxMadLionxxx1 votes

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It has some kind of ticking for Q, at least I hear a ticking sound I didn't hear before when I play her and hit someone with Q.

It's a bit annoying and not enough. I agree on more clarity. Even the purple cloud above their head being a bit bigger would suffice.

Yea the ticking sound only works on her Q and does it when you hit minions too. So you might hit minions while missing the champ and the ticking sound will go off.

General Esdeath 1 votes

They need the timer above them like with Teemo blind

Meep Man1 votes

Isn't there a purple blob above their head?

xxxMadLionxxx3 votes

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Isn't there a purple blob above their head?

its hardly visible

pusea1 votes

It's definitely visible, but there are other debuffs that may affect visibility, ie Grevious wounds.

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