Karthus & Nunu cheese strat.

This isn't healthy.

I just played against it in a normals game, btw a fucking normals game. Do you know why? Because they wanted to test it out.

The proceeded to spend the entire firsst 5 minutes of the game clearing my jungle, after they were done they 2v1ed mid until it respawned.

Here's the thing.

My Level as the opposing jungler: 2

Their's: 4

Mid Midlaner's: 2

Soooooo what your telling me is that they can 2v1 me in the jungle, clear all of my camps, out level me and everyone else in the game by 2 levels and the only counterplay to it is to hope to god you can 2v2 or 3v2? Yeah cause that's a lot of fun.

I honestly hate strategy's like this because it ruins the game for 2 other people and there isn't much counterplay to it if you don't see it in champ select before you pick. Also, the fact that they made me completely useless by taking all my camps and preventing me from playing is actually so toxic and cancerous. Like atleast with the Kayle/Yi or Karma/Yi strat you can do something but with this strat, you can't really do much unless your in a call with all the other people on your team.

Riot said that they'd be monitoring these strats to tell you if there's ample counterplay to them, and i'm going to go out on a limb and say that there isn't. Not in solo que, you can't rely on your laner's and teamates to stop them and once it gets started, it gets fucking started, it's so hard to stop and any slip up could just make it worse. I hope riot does something about this and many other strategies like it because not having any way of stopping them except hard countering them in champ select isn't really fair and if 1 lane loses during this strategy it basically guarantee's a win.

Edit: Just realized someone might say "Just clear their camps if their taking yours." well, that doesn't work out to well. Nunu+Karthus have an absurd clearspeed together, so while you can take one side of your jungle, maybe get away with a scuttlecrab, and take 1 or 2 camps from them early. After they hit 6(which was really fucking early btw, everyone else was level 4) it's basically impossible to outclear them, so your playing with only half your jungle available to you as the jungler.