"What's the pattern? As a player, I didn't have control of who I was playing with in a highly competitive environment resulting in misaligned competitive intentions." Riot Socrates
What's the pattern? Well, the pattern is you, bronze V player, because you are the only constant on your games. Basically you are bronze V because you suck, not because of your teammates. Because, remember, your opponents are also bronze V
GroundRuleDouble3 votesI can speak to this exact point. I was in Bronze V all season (between 0 and 50 LP all the time). Over the last two weeks, I focused, played what I knew, and I won 19 of my last 22 games and am in Bronze III. ELO hell doesn't exist (in the traditional sense).
Blade of Justic3 votesRegardless of if you're right or not, why do you care?
DropFill1 votes[{quoted}](name=Blade of Justic,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qpfAydWe,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-11-09T16:23:08.640+0000)
Regardless of if you're right or not, why do you care?
Because they think that, with dinamic queue, they will, like a miracle, rise up on elo like a rocket rise up on the sky.
Blade of Justic2 votesBecause they think that, with dinamic queue, they will, like a miracle, rise up on elo like a rocket rise up on the sky.
No, but you didn't answer the question.
Why do YOU care? How does them making excuses affect YOU?
Let's say that they're wrong and they'll always be Bronze 5 for the rest of their time playing this game.
How does them making excuses for being there affect you so much that it deserves a thread? I'm legitimately confused by what's needed to be said here.
DropFill1 votes[{quoted}](name=Blade of Justic,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qpfAydWe,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2015-11-09T17:19:39.072+0000)
No, but you didn't answer the question.
Why do YOU care? How does them making excuses affect YOU?
Let's say that they're wrong and they'll always be Bronze 5 for the rest of their time playing this game.
How does them making excuses for being there affect you so much that it deserves a thread? I'm legitimately confused by what's needed to be said here.
Because I am against dinamic queue, and riot is implementing it because low elo think this will save them from elo hell, afk's , feeders and stuff.
SymbolicFear2 votesThe issue is the fact that its become increasingly difficult to single-handedly carry a game. I was in Silver 2 and then dropped to Silver 4 due to a massive loss streak over the course of 2 weeks. (I played ranked about 4 times a week.) Every game I went into, I was the only person to try and despite my efforts, the rest of my team would fail and I would follow due to either tilt or just getting outplayed after a good gank or whatever they did. I was never in bronze, ever... but still, I can understand how people would associate their poor rank due to their team mates. Although, I realize the mistakes I made in my games, the issue however is that it wouldn't have changed the outcome of the game much.
Sir Yamazuki2 votesThe issue is the fact that its become increasingly difficult to single-handedly carry a game. I was in Silver 2 and then dropped to Silver 4 due to a massive loss streak over the course of 2 weeks. (I played ranked about 4 times a week.) Every game I went into, I was the only person to try and despite my efforts, the rest of my team would fail and I would follow due to either tilt or just getting outplayed after a good gank or whatever they did. I was never in bronze, ever... but still, I can understand how people would associate their poor rank due to their team mates. Although, I realize the mistakes I made in my games, the issue however is that it wouldn't have changed the outcome of the game much.
You're not team reliant when you're in Bronze. A single person has the ability to highly influence a match there, especially if you play champions that don't have much trouble fighting multiple champions by themselves.
SymbolicFear2 votesYou'd think so, but still, just because its bronze, doesn't mean you are bad. I see too many players judging others on rank alone and its really stupid. I personally judge players on their wins rather than their rank. I have friends in bronze with over 1000 wins who could very easily get to gold or plat, yet they don't enjoy ranked and just do their placements. So you can't just assume that bronze is easy as it very well could be difficult.
Joquan1 votesBecause of the 1% we shouldn't assume for the 99% is what you're saying?
Sir Yamazuki2 votesYou'd think so, but still, just because its bronze, doesn't mean you are bad. I see too many players judging others on rank alone and its really stupid. I personally judge players on their wins rather than their rank. I have friends in bronze with over 1000 wins who could very easily get to gold or plat, yet they don't enjoy ranked and just do their placements. So you can't just assume that bronze is easy as it very well could be difficult.
It does mean they are bad. I've been Bronze before, I died twice as often as I used too, took less towers, etc. I have also played against Bronze players and I would win 1v3~1v4s as Xin, my Nasus and a Sona 2v5ed, etc. There is a very big difference between just Gold and Bronze.
If you are playing at a plat level it takes less than 30 games to reach gold 5. My most recent account is at g5 almost 100 lp with about 25 games while carrying a friend who plays bad and I'm only Plat. People should stop using the "I don't play ranked so I'm bronze" excuse. I would have to intentionally lose games to be low elo.
Tract2 votesI always feel mildly irritated when people complain about elo hell. I got placed into Bronze V after promos, and have climbed to Gold V, where I am right now. I main Azir, and with mostly him. Bronze, especially bronze V, was my absolute favorite by far. It was easy and took no effort to get out of. I would go back to Bronze In a heartbeat if I didn't want the end of season rewards.
Yatsufuså1 votesSame!!
O-oh... you were flaming us instead of agreeing. Okay, here, have a down vote.[zombie-nunu-bummed]
DropFill3 votes[{quoted}](name=Verdauga Green,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qpfAydWe,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-11-09T16:10:30.216+0000)
Same!!
O-oh... you were flaming us instead of agreeing. Okay, here, have a down vote.[zombie-nunu-bummed]
So you really think you are low elo because you can't choose with who you play?
Yatsufuså1 votesI had real big baddies on my team in bronze IV, but I still made the climb to bronze I in a few games. I have 26 ranked matches total so its not that bad. I've had DC's and trolls and feeders, all the same.
They do make me lose half of my matches, but like I said, I'm BRonze I now with 24 LP .
Edit (for clarity): If I didn't have such shit teammates, I'd at least be silver III right now.
DropFill1 votes[{quoted}](name=Verdauga Green,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qpfAydWe,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2015-11-09T16:47:52.496+0000)
I had real big baddies on my team in bronze IV, but I still made the climb to bronze I in a few games. I have 26 ranked matches total so its not that bad. I've had DC's and trolls and feeders, all the same.
They do make me lose half of my matches, but like I said, I'm BRonze I now with 24 LP .
Edit (for clarity): If I didn't have such shit teammates, I'd at least be silver III right now.
And don't you agree that, if the enemy team didn't had such shit teammates, you wouldn't have win the games you won?
Yatsufuså1 votesI don't know, I've won games where I did amazing and the enemy team had fed teammates + non-feeding teammates. My team will sometimes co-operate, sometimes won't.
But they sometimes won't cooperate and we'll still win because of a stroke of luck. Its not always so black and white when it comes to online multiplayer games. Or mobas in this case.
mye PP1 votesSupposedly, a good player can carry his whole team single-handedly in Bronze, smurfs be damned.
Palmeiras SerieB1 votesAs they says in my country, to leave bronze/silver you must carry the games yourself, snowball all the shit and makes enemy ragequit.
YumaS2Astral1 votes[{quoted}](name=Palmeiras SerieB,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qpfAydWe,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2015-11-09T17:17:24.070+0000)
As they says in my country, to leave bronze/silver you must carry the games yourself, snowball all the shit and makes enemy ragequit.
The problem is people don't knowing the right way to do this.
Also people tend to be really toxic. Especially in your country. I had to deactivate /all chat because I couldn't bear out the fact that every game someone would say "gg izi" on the end.
Palmeiras SerieB1 voteseh de plasma?
YumaS2Astral1 votes[{quoted}](name=Palmeiras SerieB,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qpfAydWe,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2015-11-09T17:39:33.421+0000)
eh de plasma?
this shit is unfunny
DropFill1 votesThe problem is people don't knowing the right way to do this.
Also people tend to be really toxic. Especially in your country. I had to deactivate /all chat because I couldn't bear out the fact that every game someone would say "gg izi" on the end.
Mutting is a good option in the brazilian server
YumaS2Astral1 votesMutting is a good option in the brazilian server
On any server*
TroyTheUnconquer1 votesi actually found out the reason i'm in Bronze V.... i constantly filled and gave people whatever role they wanted, or i may not have felt like playing what i'm best at because support is boreing as hell... Last night i decided "hey, i'm a kickass sona, lets just play a ton of sona ranked
went from bronze V 22 lp to qualifying for bronze IV, in like 7 games ( i lost 2)
this was through games with a feeder, one afk, and 2 adc's who were just really bad and abandoned me anytime i set something up even if they had like full health
tribalyouth1 votesim bronze 5 because the ranked system is bull shit. i have 7 wins and 3 losses coming out of provisionals and i am bronze 5 with 0 lp
tribalyouth1 votesi have no problem with my rank because i feel as though going 7-0 in lane with a champion ive never played with makes me feel accomplished. it just pisses me off that no matter how i do, i wont get a victorious skin