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ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

You had a Vayne, who's currently struggling in this meta, against a Braum ezreal combo, with an assassin jungle and mid. I really wouldn't blame her for not doing well, with the same thing to the Brand. Could they have done something different? Probably. But it's not like they were doing this because they were boosted or something

SpankMyPhatAshe1 votes

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You had a Vayne, who's currently struggling in this meta, against a Braum ezreal combo, with an assassin jungle and mid. I really wouldn't blame her for not doing well, with the same thing to the Brand. Could they have done something different? Probably. But it's not like they were doing this because they were boosted or something

For the 1st 5m of the game ezreal can out damage vayne but after that vayne crushes both ezreal and braum as she outscales ezreal really fast because ezreal kinda weak atm because people always rush a tear..... and if braum tries to go in on her she can E him away and then kite him half to death.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

If the Vayne gets crushed, she won't be outscaling the ezreal. Vayne needs items, and if she gets item starved, then she won't be doing that much damage. Add to that that once it reaches late game, she has to deal with Ezreal poke, near instant assassination from the LeBlanc and Rengar, and that a single hit from Braum takes her out of a teamfight, due to the stacking passive. If she gets stunned against a team like that, it's all over

SpankMyPhatAshe1 votes

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If the Vayne gets crushed, she won't be outscaling the ezreal. Vayne needs items, and if she gets item starved, then she won't be doing that much damage. Add to that that once it reaches late game, she has to deal with Ezreal poke, near instant assassination from the LeBlanc and Rengar, and that a single hit from Braum takes her out of a teamfight, due to the stacking passive. If she gets stunned against a team like that, it's all over

Thats pretty much true but I was talking if it was a normal lane w/o junglers camping either side.

MigYalle1 votes

Playing with golds and you were diamond? It sounds like a personal problem really, my friend in Platinum can carry silver/gold and even platinum games virtually alone all the time, he could easily break into diamond if he put more time into the game so i'll give you the list of reasons that you could be losing elo ~ This isn't your meta. Maybe this meta is tough for your general play style or works against you. ~ Maybe you focus too much on ranks of your team before a game starts that you put yourself down before it even begins. ~ The last possible option is that your skills can decay, it's very unlikely but it's happened to players and they can't climb out of the rut they think they are in. Seen a few quit cause of this but ya'know, I could always be wrong. Have fun on the Rift anyways!

TNHA Baritone1 votes

Good Lord you need help. You dont understand what he was saying.

MigYalle1 votes

My apologies, I misunderstood the post.

The Deckowner1 votes

OP is saying people with gold mechanic are getting dynamic boosted to diamond

MigYalle1 votes

My bad, I misunderstood what he was saying, I apologize. In the case then yes he is very correct, I can understand his concern now and I agree. Dynamic queue has allowed this to a problem that arose when it couldn't before, I personally don't know anyone who's done this but it's definitely a problem that should be solved. Once again I apologize.

Very Hard Engage1 votes

only a 7k gold lead. adequate cs from team mates.

rengar camped vayne

nothing to see here

maybe if you didn't take so much lane cs from your team mates... and froze it for them instead of take it for yourself...

The Bíg Ticket1 votes

No reason to die 20 times in a single game lol.

SpankMyPhatAshe1 votes

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No reason to die 20 times in a single game lol.

No reason to die 20 tims unless there is a rengar in the game... hes abit over the top right now and an extremely strong pick with low CD and tons of early game damage. So this looks about right to me.

PiVoRx1 votes

Sorry mate, but dying 20 times is never right, im not going to explain how such game is going, but playing safe and with team to reduce possibility of being caught is always an option.

SpankMyPhatAshe1 votes

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Sorry mate, but dying 20 times is never right, im not going to explain how such game is going, but playing safe and with team to reduce possibility of being caught is always an option.

Once rengar gets a few kills he can tower dive bot pretty easy with a braum or any kind of tank and pop them like a zit. You should of been more pro active about your botlane when they were getting camped really hard instead of ignoring them and leaving them to die to a 4 man gank because I know LB had a piece of that action at botlane. Also seeing that your cs is really high it looks like you taxed you're laners even when you got the kill... big mistake!! if they get the kill then take a few minions if you get the kill then gtfo of the lane or you will be setting them back and they won't have a decent advantage. This is basic jungle stuff 101. Another thing I noticed why you're cs is really high is that you spent the rest of the game split pushing and hoping that you're team (That is waaay behind) can ace them in a 4v5. The thing you got to understand is that at that point you're team can get engaged on really easy with an Rengar and a Leblanc that can delete someone from 2 screens away. Point is you tried to play a solo game at mid to late game and it failed. Now ask yourself what did I do wrong?

The Deckowner1 votes

but thresh and vayne are both traditional counters to rengar

The Bíg Ticket1 votes

Were you around when Ranger actually was strong? He is pretty garbage atm. Even if he still was broken you should not die 20 times.

Troy2426211 votes

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Were you around when Ranger actually was strong? He is pretty garbage atm. Even if he still was broken you should not die 20 times.

Rengar isn't garbage :c.

Very Hard Engage1 votes

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No reason to die 20 times in a single game lol.

i can think of a few qtpie games where hes 2-14 etc. due to repeated attention in the bot lane and hes just super behind. it happens to even the best of us.

The Bíg Ticket2 votes

Yeah when he is playing someone like Jhin or Varus. You are not gonna die 20 times on Vayne if you try to play a little safe. Lets be real here.

Very Hard Engage1 votes

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Yeah when he is playing someone like Jhin or Varus. You are not gonna die 20 times on Vayne if you try to play a little safe. Lets be real here.

it absolutely happens when theres a rengar camping your lane and 1 shotting you because hes making it his lifes goal.

its almost like rengar has true vision and doesn't care that vayne is stealthed or something.....

heres a famous quote from gosu

" it doesn't matter if you keep feeding, because if you're a little B under your turret and not farming hes always going to keep the lead that he has. and make it bigger. if you go back to lane and at least get a few cs its better than just getting passive gold. this way you can eventually get big too and win the late game, so its not always over just because you've died a few times. and you're feeding"

(paraphrased)

The Bíg Ticket1 votes

And how does he have true vision when he jumps out of his ult onto Vayne? Vayne presses R Q and is invisible. Unless he is already hilariously fed that he can oneshot her before that, she actually has a good chance of getting away.

Ezreal had 22 kills btw, 5 more than Ranger. Probably safe to assume she fed her ass off in laning phase.

PiVoRx1 votes

Is that "its only your fault" propaganda still going on? Im not going to explain how the game was going or something but i would like to know how are you supposted to win such thing?

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