is It Better To Play Through losing Streaks On A old Account Or Make A New One??

VvVVvV·Jul 11, 2017·1 votes·484 views

I made it to Silver 5 a month ago, then hit a 7 game losing streak and actually got demoted right back to Bronze 1 which i didnt think could happen. And now even with playing some great games we still lose. Dont get me wrong...i have some bad games too but im now getting people in my teams with stuff like Ali support with TP, players jungling without smite. no keystone mastery. Leblanc tops.

the loses just keep going, now B4

what should i do?

pls no troll answers

16 Comments

DrugothJul 11, 20173 votes

Just stick with the one account. All your unlocked champions and skins are already on it. If you start a new account, you have to level it all the way back up to level 30 again, unlock some champions, buy runes. After all is said and done, there's no guarantee that you won't get stuck right back into bronze all over again. Then where will you be? Back to square one, and a whole ton of wasted effort for nothing!

Frankly, no matter how much you want to blame your teammates, the only reason you're stuck where you are is you.

KingHeidrekJul 11, 20172 votes

I think it may be easier to carry as a jungle. You have a lot of free roaming and ganking capabilities. If the players are that bad then they probably won't ward overextended lanes.

HalcyonDwellerJul 11, 20171 votes

Jungle is so much easier for me to win at lower ELO than any other role. At low levels of play people make so many more mistakes that are easy to capitalize on. And Jungle being able to roam and influence anything they choose makes them most able to capitalize on those mistakes.

Just practice using warding to your advantage, and counter-jungle when you know it's safe, it will tilt the ever-living shit out of your enemy jungler.

I frequently try to start whichever buff my enemy doesn't start, then return to my own jungle to clear my double buffs and some small camps. It puts them so far behind and their teammates are sure to make it worse by complaining when you start ganking and their jungler is still trying to catch up in farm.

KingHeidrekJul 12, 20172 votes

ah yeah I usually do that, but counter jungling is something you learn as game sense, and it needs knowledge. After a while summoners will stand in bushes to watch out for invasions. Roamers have a big influence on snowballing lanes and snowballing themselves. stealing isn't the biggest issue too, as ganking lanes provide more income than the monsters.

HalcyonDwellerJul 12, 20171 votes

Right! Starting enemy buffs only really works at low elo, and I doubt the strategy will still work for me after I get matched against better opponents.

Most of these tips are for climbing in lower levels of play.

EschetonJul 11, 20171 votes

If you are not a carry type of player. But are more a teamfighting tank or support for instance, getting yourself out of that low elo can be rough. An elo reset from a new account might benefit you then.

But if you have skins and stuff you would like to preserve, there are ways to just climb (besides just waiting for new season resets). Like maining a different champ or role that benefits you/the meta more.

VvVVvVJul 11, 20171 votes

yeah this is exactly me. When i 1st started playing i was a support main. i just started noticing that when i got support i won more games so i just started asking for it...this was like way back in old champ select before you could que for a role.

But then i just got tired of adc's blaming me for every time they died...even if they died in lane alone wjhile i was buying items so i just stoped playing the role and started playing my tanks top. Then moved to Voli jungle, Malphite jungle. Then lately ziggs mid....i even win a lot with malphite mid and lead team in damage while still being tanky.

But then stuff like my game that just finished happens where we have a AP miss fortune support who refuses to change to AD build when our Jhin DC from the game 6 minutes in.

The game still went 40 minutes.....i think we could of won if she went ad.

EschetonJul 11, 20171 votes

Have you considered being a Sion Main? item 2303 item 3022 item 3109 is absurdly good on support Sion. And toplane he can build whatever the situation requires.

And he is brute force enough that low elo can follow up. Plus his damage and sustain are both very impressive (with ad reds).

VvVVvVJul 11, 20171 votes

i could try him, i have him but havnt played him since his rework. Most of my time playing i just play ranked.....but i think i need to learn others i want to learn Rakan also.

EschetonJul 11, 20171 votes

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i could try him, i have him but havnt played him since his rework. Most of my time playing i just play ranked.....but i think i need to learn others i want to learn Rakan also.

yeah, play at least 30 or so games in normals to get used to him before trying ranked.

KingHeidrekJul 11, 20171 votes

Carry. Legit. Think about all the money you have to pay in order to get your runes.

Eevee In A JarJul 11, 20171 votes

You have to consider the fact that when you make a new account, you have to grind to 30 and buy rune pages and runes. For me, that's just not worth it. Though to be honest when I'm on a losing streak, I just STOP losing. This can be done by just taking a break for a day or two. Sometimes you just don't play well. It happens. Other times is securing a win by stacking all the handicaps and advantages as you can. Picking popular meta picks and strong comps that synergize well with those FotM.

IMO you should just grind through a losing streak and understand that a loss is nothing to feel bad about. Ego is the reason why people feel angry or upset about rank. You should throw that notion away. A person without ego is hard to tilt. TBH though if you feel you're losing nonstop and one of the main contributing reasons is you, take a short break from League altogether.

Whenever I had trouble climbing rank ladders I took a week break and came back. Ironically while a bit rusty in few other mechanics, I came back as a better player. Part of that reason was I began to hesitate and play with uncertainty in my plays. Perhaps the break might help you in some other ways.

Starcraft243verJul 11, 20171 votes

None is better.

If you feel that creating a brand new account will give you a nice bump of motivation and self confidence, go on. It might work. Also leveling your account will allow you to go back to the basics, train your CSing vs lower level opponents, with no runes and masteries to help you.

I personnally have 3 accounts and I feel that having at least 2 accounts at least is quite good for trainning, I've got an account where I OTP 2 champions in ranked.

Another to play mid/top/jungle, and another one to play adc mainly. If I were to play my otp on my adc only account I would climb really fast, and If i were to play adc on my otp account i would lose every game or so. So I think it's better to have split my accounts into differents roles rather than playing one time my otp and whinning then playing adc and losing.

This being said, if your goal is just to climb back : stop thinking about your rank or your LP, you have to improve enough so YOU can be a deciding factor in EVERY of your games. Dont tell me "it's impossible", I've done it in a regular basis.

Now, I can give you some advices so you can improve your plays :

You play mainly ziggs and malphite, keep doing this. It's perfect to climb.
Your CS, it's awfull, especially with ziggs. Rush a morello and spam your spells to get ALL these minions coming at you, you have really 0 excuses with ziggs to have a low CS count.
I see you are quite "creative" with your builds. Stop that. Luden suxx on malphite. If you really want to deal late game damages, buy a voidstaff. But full Armor/MR malphite with some CDR and an iceborn gauntelet and grasp of the undying instead of stonebound mastery will be WAY better :) Check probuild or OP.GG to check high elo malphite builds and copy them. These guys are top players for some reason, I dont ask you to copy blindly, try to understand why they built this. But at the end keep in mind that they are probably right, you'll question their choices when you will have their game knowledge. Really, banner of command with ziggs is nonsens, ap malphite could work, but there are some champions that are WAY WAY better when played full AP, malphite is designed to be played tanky, if you want to add some damages you can still buy magic pen if you want, but not too much.
It seems that your warding is ok for your level, keep it at least this way, but improving is always better :)
I'd rather have a ziggs support than a malphite support. So, when you are autofilled, go for the ziggs, and harass the ennemy botlane so your adc can farm safely.

VvVVvVJul 11, 20171 votes

yeah i was using ludens along with dead mans plate for the bonus damage and movement speed. it seems to work, takes chucks out of enemies but ill try your suggestions thank you

Pippen The ShortJul 11, 20171 votes

Do something different. Malphite isn't great at higher elo's and not exactly in the meta either. So as you get on a winning streak it'll get tougher to win the more you climb.

Your CS score is typically pretty bad, and your vision score isn't great either.

You can't 1 trick climb with Malphite either.

woodvsmurphJul 11, 20171 votes

Yo - g3 here. I was stuck in s3-s5 for and only dropping elo for half of spring split. Didn't matter that I was getting camped 2v1 top for 90% of games and either STILL winning or at least going even in lane pretty much every game. My team still fed hard enough that any lead I got was overshadowed. Had 2 weeks where 9/10 games or so were auto-losses. Didn't matter if I stopped for 2 days to avoid playing when extremely tilted or not; soon as I played the next game, it was like these auto-loss teammates just followed me and were on my team every game. Focusing on them doesn't help. Contrary to what people say - often people who elo shame because ("i'm diamond and you are trash gold" or "I'm gold and you are a retarded silver 5; you know nothing") it's the only way they feel good about themselves - other people CAN hold you back. Not permanently, but it can take basically a full season to reach your proper elo.

On my climb from b3-g3 I have learned several things this year. P.S. I was g5 last year - peaked g4 before falling back to g5 because that WAS the elo I belonged at. One thing I learned is to focus on learning a few champs very well for each role you play. Once you REALLY know how to play them to perfection - at least at the elo you want to reach - you can start adding a few more but keep fresh on your mains for the role too or you will lose some edge. Pay attention to the micro and the macro. How could I have: won that trade I just lost, survived that gank or even turned it around, pressured the map better, focused differently in the teamfight to better protect teammates or kill priority targets faster? What combo's can my champ do and when should I do each one? Sometimes this is more a matter of figuring out your opponent's skill level and playstyle; if they play super passive or too agro or whatever to let you do your best bread-n-butter combo, what new/other combo can you do instead to punish their playstyle? Do you freeze the wave and build a huge cs and xp lead or hard shove? Do you set up a tower dive, look to land some poke damage while they farm under tower, or go roam? Think about WHY you are doing EVERYTHING.

If your laner(s) go mia, don't just ping your lane; ping on top of your teammates so they know your laner(s) might be headed there. This is low elo - once the first tower in bot lane falls, it's time to 3 or 4 man group up and rotate pressure between mid and bot. If your bot lane lost and you just sit bot, you will either overextend for farm and keep dying and falling further behind while the enemy picks up more farm, objectives, and kills on you for overextending bot. If you group with your midlaner and maybe jungler too, you are harder to punish for being behind and for SMALL mistakes. Similarly, if you are ahead bot, shoving the enemy tier 2 with no wards in the enemy jungle or minimal warding invites the enemy to 4v2 or 5v2 you and punish your lead while getting the enemy bot lane time to catch back up. Better to take that lead mid and force the enemy bot duo to answer your pressure around the map. If mid has too much waveclear, go top instead and get that and the rift herald if it's up. Translate your lead to OTHER lanes. Learn when it is best to force teamfights, to skirmish or duel instead of teamfight, to stall the game. Ping, chat a quick plan or 2 options to your teammates (before you get in a tense standoff or battle) so they have some GOOD ideas of what to do in their heads. Giving options can help some people be more willing to listen to good ideas because no one likes to listen to a good shotcall unless THEY made it; giving options means THEY made a good shotcall. Doesn't always work, but it's worth a try. Giving ideas like "focus their mid and jungler first in teamfights" can help your team come out on top. Remind people of the basics if they have forgotten several times in recent fights - like "don't cluster together for their aoe burst guys". Sometimes people get pissed off and harass or flame you for this, but if they are not doing it, it is worth reminding them.

Map pressure and smart objective trades and forces goes a long way. You behind and the enemy team has baron or is just splitpushing? Set up a huge minion wave push in the 3rd lane to distract/tempt the enemy team so they send someone back to clear it before it grabs a tower. Now you can force a 5v4 when behind instead of worrying about the splitpush killing your base while you try to stop the rest of their team. They going for dragon or baron and your team didn't listen for the last 2.5 min and ward anywhere around the objective? If they are ahead, facechecking could be fatal. Maybe you know where some of them are, or even all of them but you know you can't win a 5v5 yet because your team is too behind. Can you turn to the opposite objective (drag or baron) and sneak it away asap while the other team grabs the opposite objective? It's one of the most overlooked and favorite plays I like to do if my team will listen. High elo, you couldn't get away with this most games, but this isn't high elo and you often can. Predict where and what the enemy team is going for and move accordingly. Do you hard engage and punish it, contest and stall it, avoid it at all costs to not give them a game ending fight, trade objectives? Learn that stuff and you will climb some even if your mechanics only match what your current elo is.

Never give up. Improve yourself, work on communicating with team better and learning to help/manipulate them into making smarter TEAM decisions. And if people aren't quick to listen to good shotcalls - or even if they are - be extra sure to point out GOOD plays and shotcalls by teammates. I mean if you are more likely to listen to a decent shotcall by a teammate because he/she listened to one you made awhile back and said "nice call" or something like that; why wouldn't your teammates be the same way? If you are meant to climb, you will eventually get there as long as you stick with it. You can only get inting feeders and trolls regularly for so many games in a row. Eventually you will get that gap you need and climb to the next elo and run into... more int feeders, trolls, people who are boosted beyond belief and should be in wood 5, great players, and average players who are right where they are supposed to be. Sadly I have seen some people with better mechanics or better micro and macro intelligence in bronze than some that I have seen in silver or gold. The mechanics generally get better as you climb, but not for everyone. And the horrible decision-making, lack of warding, 1v5 mentality, and other horrible traits remain. That said, there are still those magical moments when you get not just a good team, but a fun team to play with who work together well and you wish you could just be 5 man pre-made in solo queue for rest of the season.