Why does Jayce's E knock-back increase vs champions who dash towards him?

OyddAWqJ5r·Jul 25, 2017·3 votes·466 views

Edit: For those downvoting why do you think this is a justified effect? Why don't we just put this on all knockbacks then?

If the enemy dashes at Jayce whilst Jayce is channeling Thundering Blow, they will get knocked back and travel the distance they have dashed as well as the knock-back distance provided by Thundering Blow.

^ Why does that exist? Why doesn't it just do the normal knock-back?

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It seems like it has a fixed placed that is sends them after activating it.

Its pretty bullshit. Here is it hitting at a nearly a 90° degree lmao

https://gyazo.com/3e90ad79b35f78d1af5006c03416d4f9

^ That's some comedy gold

http://sendvid.com/0pfrq1ov

^ Case explained in the OP.

16 Comments

Stars ShaperJul 25, 20173 votes

Ever played Baseball?

HeresyHorusJul 25, 20171 votes

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

BEST REPLY EVER.

ABlueQuakerJul 25, 20172 votes

Pretty sure Riot had two options for the channel type when they were coding it. It was either this, or Jayce potentially being able to E and flash while it channelled.

CochoJul 25, 20172 votes

It seems like it has a fixed placed that is sends them after activating it. It doesn't matter what direction you dash, after he activates it, you're ending up in the same place.

Its pretty bullshit. Here is it hitting at a nearly a 90° degree lmao

https://gyazo.com/3e90ad79b35f78d1af5006c03416d4f9

OyddAWqJ5rJul 25, 20171 votes

LOL

WORKING AS INTENDED

archerno1Jul 25, 20171 votes

Momentum

KokuaJul 25, 20171 votes

The real question is.... does it work on a Sion ult? Totally have to try it.

OyddAWqJ5rJul 25, 20171 votes

Rek Sai ult? Hm...

Jinzo TorranceJul 25, 20171 votes

So he can't insec you by doing E flash, so it had to be coded like that.

OyddAWqJ5rJul 25, 20171 votes

How does that make sense? Honest question.

What's the difference between normal knock-back vs knock-back+dash-reversal when it comes to the ability to insec?

Why can't it just do the normal knockback while locking Jayce in place during it so he can't do that?

Jinzo TorranceJul 25, 20171 votes

The difference is that Jayce player would first flash and then E, requiring a bit more reaction and precision from his side than just E and then repositioning with flash, also it would've be a pretty bad ability if when Jayce presses E and you move the direction in which he knocks you back changes, you could just flash or move behind him and he would lose instantly since he knocked you back to where he should retreat or just flash or move near a wall and he would knock you over it.

For the lockdown part, it's just to make the skill less clunky, in almost every skill you can flash during the cast time, why can't Jayce during his E ? Also a Jayce can AA you, then use his E on you and Flash to throw another AA after you get knocked back giving him some skill expression since he can't use his Q for about a second after using E.

OyddAWqJ5rJul 25, 20171 votes

Aight so I think you're misunderstanding the post.

This isn't about him knocking you in front of him. This is about him reversing dashes and making them retreat back to their start point and THEN get the E knockback.

For instance, if Xin uses Audacious Charge and Jayce uses E while Xin is mid-charged, Xin won't only receive the normal knockback from E but also travel the full length of his dash back to his starting point.

Jinzo TorranceJul 25, 20171 votes

Hmm, actually no.

I don't know the specific distance Jayce knocks you back but let's say it's 600 range. Xin will be knocked EXACTLY 600 range away from Jayce, no more no less. Xin won't knocked back 600 units away from he started his Audacious charge, but it will be knock back just 600 units from Jayce, if Xin E has a range 800 units he would be still 200 units closer to Jayce.

https://gyazo.com/3e90ad79b35f78d1af5006c03416d4f9

Here Kat got knocked away from Jayce to his predetermined E knockback distance ignoring that Kat did a Shumpo in totally different direction.

He will not knock you back more than that hypothetical 600 range from him.

OyddAWqJ5rJul 26, 20171 votes

If the enemy dashes at Jayce whilst Jayce is channeling Thundering Blow, they will get knocked back and travel the distance they have dashed as well as the knock-back distance provided by Thundering Blow.

It's in the OP... actually it was literally the only thing in the OP at one point. Idk how this was ever misunderstood. Just read that quote then come back if you got anything.

http://sendvid.com/0pfrq1ov

TheDesoIationJul 25, 20171 votes

The way the ability works is it sort of locks the enemy into the place where it knocks them once the ability is cast it doesnt matter where they move during the animation it sends them to the location

TheDesoIationJul 25, 20171 votes

think its coded that way so he cant E+flash like lee sin insec