"Zed could be a little bit stronger right now..."

agreed. Also i made a post earlier about how they should FIX THE CORE PROBLEM (adcs) instead of giving these buffs to champions who are supposedly out there to kill adcs (which these buffs will harder matter in that regard cause zed will still get clicked down in 2 seconds by point and click dmg).

It will probably do nothing. He will be picked 1 time in worlds, be unable to snowball or be of any use, then promptly not be picked again. That has been Zed for awhile now.

According to Phreak's math in his patch notes, the attack speed does next to nothing for him. He gets +1% damage output every 100 auto attacks, big whoop.

The actual buff is to the shadow because it gives him an extra spell cast, which was the reason this spell got nerfed to begin with. He was oppressive in lane because you had to watch the shadow for 2 Qs coming from it, now we get those 2 Qs again. Such fun to play against.

Build him pretty much like an off-tank and absorb CC/cooldowns so your team gets to free fire in the meantime.

Legit what Faker did against KT (early season). He started building tank and ulting the ADC.

Instantly the ADC would use Ashe ult on him, combined with Braum ult/shield.

They would all group up to stop zed burst, whilst trying to burst him before he can clone back - however when they did that rumble would just ult them and since zed was pretty much a tank he'd just take his ult clone back. Even as a tank with just ghostblade he still did enough damage to burst the ADC if left alone - but had enough survivability to not be useless.

As an ex main i'm pretty sure it doesn't solve any of his issues. The W CD nerf riot gave him in s6 destroyed his laning entirely. He has the same CD as yasuo and fiora W except theirs is much more powerful and not needed in their kit to function. Zeds entire kit revolves around his W as his primary mobility/engage and damage tool. He has a small powerspike at lvl 3/4 where he can kill a mage but i doubt any pro mage is dumb enough to just stay around and get killed. So pre level 6 he just gets pressured and shoved under turret leaving them free to roam.

The longer duration of his W is indeed helpful for double Qs and maybe even triple Es with a bit less CDR than before. Can't see how AS helps him in any rotation you only ever get that one AA for his passive procc off anyways, if you have to stay longer you are dead unless obscenely fed.

They could have solved his oppressive laning phase easier instead of completely deleting it' existance before 6. Shorten the range on his W by 100-150 and leave his CD as it was pre nerf. So he can still waveclear and only ever harasses if mages truly overstep. They buffed his range from 1300-1400 (or 1100-1200 not entirely sure on the correct numbers) before s6 and made him oppressive as hell with it since his shadow range basically goes from his caster row to the enemy ones giving him free harass whenever someone tries to last hit.

His as was nerfed a while ago cause he took towers to fast tho :P

Riot hates mages so much that they allowed the big 4 to remain meta ever since mage rework LUL

I'd prefer Zed getting buffs to literally anything but his laning. It was the very reason he was so opressive back in the day; his assassination pattern is fair, but having access to mage-level waveclear without mana to manage meant he'd ad best win lane and at worst go even, then push you to the turret and roam once you don't have enough mana to push back.

He doesn't even offer poke out of lane lol. And gl assassinating people in this meta.

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It's because he has easily exploitable counterplay

Good joke

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im sick of low elo players complaining about zed getting buffed...

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http://imgur.com/a/TlhMk

I as someone who mains zed for quite a while disagree with the zed buffs aswell. He is a really good assassin, thought sure he lands a bit short These days due to the fast paced nature and Snowbally mutation league is headed into, he still has one job, and he still does it well.

Second, trading with zed is crutial not because of his W but because of his passive. What people are most afraid is him swapping in with his shadow and give you a Magic-damage based mini crit just because you didnt back in lane when you got below 50%.

Point 3, zed is a really good Counter to Orianna who legit everyone complains about all the time. Zed is the ad go to choice to fuck her up, and place 2 of best choices to Counter most mobile and/or short ranged mages like orianna, ahri aswell as immobile Targets with no disengage like xerath and vel'koz. And even just a mediocre decent zed can outplay fizz hard. i have in all my time only once lost to a fizz and to this day i see that man as a god for that reason.

Sure, i may not be high elo, but when it Comes to zed i had to restrain myself from laughing when i read your whole post, half of it is such bullshit. Zed may not have the strongest earlygame anymore but his laning phase is still fantastic. Losing lane with zed requires a Special Kind of unskilled, and even then you have the option to roam botlane or invade their jungler. earlygame junglers will never really have much health so you are almost garuanteed to combo them down if you do get a successful invade come lvl 3.

What i hate is when arrogant nitpicky low elo trashers bring biased self-centered opinions to the gameplay board, which literally states "be formal, opinions mean Little if you have nothing to support them"

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Oh no a melee champion can retaliate slightly more often than before!

Oh no indeed.

How about little buffs to champions underperforming alot?

The problem with this buff to Zed however is that it gives him an extra spell cast per shadow. Riot nerfed this because of how oppressive it was, now he's going to be the old oppressive pile of shit I banned every time I went mid again.