Let's all just take a second to appreciate this long overdue Gragas fix

OyddAWqJ5r·Sep 13, 2017·110 votes·4,074 views

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68 Comments

Moon ForcerSep 14, 201739 votes

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/086/918/afb.gif

SpecterVonBarenSep 14, 20171 votes

What is this gif from?

andrew9514Sep 14, 20172 votes

Pokemon X I believe.

Zëd LęppelinSep 14, 20174 votes

Pokemon X/Y

SpecterVonBarenSep 14, 20171 votes

Weird... thought it was a Digimon or Ni No Kuni 2 gif or something, doesn't look like pokemon. (Note I haven't played X or Y)

Zëd LęppelinSep 14, 20171 votes

Its because X/Y and ORAS are fully 3D not 2D pixel art.

The Yetii RiderSep 14, 20171 votes

The Pokémon is Flabebe's evolved form that no one cares about.

Zëd LęppelinSep 15, 20171 votes

Its not the evolved form. It's an alternate form.

Voluug13Sep 15, 20171 votes

If its Fairy I care for it

BańgSep 13, 201731 votes

cant wait for the gragas 1 tricks in d1 to fall to plat now that their champ has counterplay in 1v1s

BALDG1VEN BOOMERSep 14, 201713 votes

Uh what? While I would agree his hit box was BS, that is not where most of his 1v1 power came from.

BańgSep 14, 201711 votes

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Uh what? While I would agree his hit box was BS, that is not where most of his 1v1 power came from.

u never played against a d1 gragas 1 trick top then/

no counterplay to his entire combo if ur melee and trying to cs.

he e q aa for a free thunderlord

1022Sep 14, 201718 votes

riven does exactly the same

BoilTheOilSep 14, 20172 votes

At least riven is sitting here building damage gragas on the other hand can either go tank or ap when he chooses if hes fed woo hoo ap one shot time

JoseraphSep 14, 20174 votes

Riven doesn't have long ranged harass, or a get out of jail free card if she's ganked with her mobility on cd. Riven doesn't scale into a pick making tank with good damage even if she just sits back and farms

NiceTryViSep 14, 20172 votes

While i agree on the harass, Riven never doesn't have mobility, as the only time she uses her E is to get out of a sticky situation or to close on you, and if shes closing, shes got her Q up to get back out if it turns out shes getting ganked. Plus the low CD on her w. barring that, she hits you with the knockup on her 3rd q, and then E's out because by that point, its off CD as well.

My Waifu VanillaSep 15, 20171 votes

Except Gragas top's harass isn't meaningful because he maxes E in MOST match-ups.

IPromiseTomorrowSep 14, 20171 votes

But ad

Other wise she's riven and different and smexy

BALDG1VEN BOOMERSep 14, 20174 votes

I like how this post is just talking about his body slam hitbox but you're talking about about his entire combo.

BańgSep 14, 20173 votes

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I like how this post is just talking about his body slam hitbox but you're talking about about his entire combo.

That's because not only does his e stop every single skill in the game but it lets him use a full combo with only .2 seconds to react and flash out after

Skins ProjectSep 14, 20176 votes

you realize there's no difference because a D1 player hopefully can aim well enough that they don't have to abuse the broken hitbox....

BańgSep 14, 20174 votes

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you realize there's no difference because a D1 player hopefully can aim well enough that they don't have to abuse the broken hitbox....

U Realize Gragas e hitbox is so broken in terms of coding u can't actually miss t.

It didn't matter what u aimed for as long as something was in front of u.

Check out the vids on YouTube about the hitbox being bugged

Skins ProjectSep 14, 20176 votes

D1- "demote to plat"

D1- Uses a unmissable shot, therefor they CANNOT use a missable skillshot.

Leme put this here again

#D1

I get that's it's shit, i'm saying it's NOT GOING TO IMPACT A GOOD GRAGUS SIGNIFICANTLY.

Rustling BushSep 17, 20171 votes

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U Realize Gragas e hitbox is so broken in terms of coding u can't actually miss t.

It didn't matter what u aimed for as long as something was in front of u.

Check out the vids on YouTube about the hitbox being bugged

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e-TzKYXrHc

AetherKingdomSep 14, 20171 votes

once they learn to e flash riot just hands them a chally jacket

Catalin10GGSep 14, 201715 votes

[sg-jinx]

The Yetii RiderSep 14, 20172 votes

THERE'S A YANDERE STAR GUARDIAN JINX STICKER?!?! Why am I only finding out about this now?!! Praise be to Riot, they really do love us!

TwitchInMyPantsSep 14, 20177 votes

Its a pleasant surprise that gameplay actually found something in the patch notes to like

SanKakUSep 14, 20175 votes

Meanwhile, the AD version of Gragas just got buffed. LeeSin

JoseraphSep 14, 20171 votes

At least it wasn't a damage buff, and it's worse late. Not like Lee maxes W anyway, it probably wont do much

WráthfulSep 14, 20173 votes

1.0.0.72 - 7.18 RIP GRAGAS was a fun time.

taleofsonataSep 13, 20172 votes

Now we need fix on other champions, Sion Q, Nautilus Q, Bard retarded Q, Shen E etc.

inplaneSep 14, 201712 votes

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Now we need fix on other champions, Sion Q, Nautilus Q, Bard retarded Q, Shen E etc.

Everything but Nautilus Q is fine though. Sion 's Q and Bard 's Q are really predictable as long as you keep a distance from them. Shen 's E is already as thin as it can possibly be.

JobriqSep 14, 20178 votes

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Everything but Q is fine though. 's Q and 's Q are really predictable as long as you keep a distance from them. 's E is already as thin as it can possibly be.

Sion's Q indicator is smaller than the spell's actual hitbox (when charged up)

MorticianjohnSep 14, 20174 votes

which is interesting because it has this outline that is one of the most obvious indicators in LOL but the stun hits you even when you are clearly outside of the outline

Glory ln DeathSep 14, 20171 votes

It's not. There are a few factors that make it seem that way, most predominantly that most players are focused on where their champion's feet are relative to the Q indicator. Most champions have small/narrow feet, with wider torsos. A champion's hitbox attempts to include as much of the visual model as possible, and is a cylinder shape, so wider shoulders means a wider hitbox, even if the feet are tiny.

With Sion's Q, you have to be aware of your own champion's hitbox quirks.

JobriqSep 14, 20171 votes

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It's not. There are a few factors that make it seem that way, most predominantly that most players are focused on where their champion's feet are relative to the Q indicator. Most champions have small/narrow feet, with wider torsos. A champion's hitbox attempts to include as much of the visual model as possible, and is a cylinder shape, so wider shoulders means a wider hitbox, even if the feet are tiny.

With Sion's Q, you have to be aware of your own champion's hitbox quirks.

Hitbox's are circles, not cylinders. League isn't 3D

TheSingularitySep 14, 20174 votes

If you use a naut Q on terrain you will find it is actually accurate to the portrayed hitbox when u hover the spell. It's the hitboxes of other champions interacting with his Q that makes it bigger than it is.

Glory ln DeathSep 14, 20171 votes

Champion hitboxes are pretty funky. They don't usually match the visual model.

13900 EssenceSep 14, 20179 votes

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Now we need fix on other champions, Sion Q, Nautilus Q, Bard retarded Q, Shen E etc.

The only reason I could think of for complaining about bard Q is if you dash/blink after getting hit by the 1st part and getting stunned when it hits something else.

Shen's e hitbox is actually notoriously small as well.

Daddy AntsSep 14, 20171 votes

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Now we need fix on other champions, Sion Q, Nautilus Q, Bard retarded Q, Shen E etc.

Morgana Q Jhin W. Shitbox on this is disgusting. Ashe R Lux R Lux Q Naut Q Thresh Q.

martincastillo2Sep 14, 20171 votes

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Morgana Q Jhin W. Shitbox on this is disgusting. Ashe R Lux R Lux Q Naut Q Thresh Q.

Lux R is ridiculous

dunder killSep 14, 20171 votes

Morg bind next? That thing is way worse than even Thresh hook

WráthfulSep 14, 20171 votes

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Morg bind next? That thing is way worse than even Thresh hook

what about sion q?

Glory ln DeathSep 14, 20171 votes

What about Sion's Q?

Faceroll TacticsSep 14, 20173 votes

It's the slowest moving projectile in the game, and Morgana does a telegraphed wind up beforehand...

Zëd LęppelinSep 14, 20172 votes

No actually, unlike Thresh hook it doesn't have a 'wind up time'. It does however move at the speed of an elderly paraplegic. However the projectiles speed is irrelevant if it hits you even when it visually didn't.

DengedenSep 14, 20173 votes

Most spells have one actually. Only they last around .75s or less which makes them tricky to notice.

Zëd LęppelinSep 14, 20171 votes

Well yeah almost every spell has a delay but the ~0.1s delay on Morg Q doesn't make much difference.

Faceroll TacticsSep 15, 20171 votes

She has a wind up most don't know about. She faces the exact direction the binding will go and does some motion with her hand. This is how you juke it because the actual q is hard to predict but her animation shows where it will go