I feel like people dont understand that as a support

Succubús GF·May 20, 2017·21 votes·854 views

My kill/death ratio will never be positive unless i never die or take a bunch of kills by going ap or a kill lane
As a support ill die for my adc, EVERY TIME
as a soraka player, they can and WILL focus me, so dont flame me for dying more frequently as the assassin will 100% flash ult ignite me 4)If you have 2 wards available and ive run out of sightston charges and they die, use a ward and dont flame me, i will restock. I make sure to buy a control ward frequently and ward often, so blaming me for you getting two trinkets and not using them while you facecheck, is not my problem

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xelakerMay 20, 20179 votes

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My kill/death ratio will never be positive unless i never die or take a bunch of kills by going ap or a kill lane

As a support ill die for my adc, EVERY TIME

as a soraka player, they can and WILL focus me, so dont flame me for dying more frequently as the assassin will 100% flash ult ignite me 4)If you have 2 wards available and ive run out of sightston charges and they die, use a ward and dont flame me, i will restock. I make sure to buy a control ward frequently and ward often, so blaming me for you getting two trinkets and not using them while you facecheck, is not my problem

I feel the pain. mid will be 11/18/4 and I'll say, stop going into 3v1 for a kill it's not helping" and get the, "you don't even have kills shuddup"

CryptoKeyMay 20, 20172 votes

I feel your pain man. Us support mains always get looked over. Just remember 90% of the time, a support will go in first to damage the enemy. It's on the support for the adc to shine, doesn't matter how good they think they are or how much they flame you.

KORGtunersMay 20, 20172 votes

1-3: no. 4: Amen.

Teridax68May 21, 20172 votes

There's really no point in bringing up a support's kill/death ratio in an argument, because the accuser can always try to find a way to talk shit one way or the other. If the support gets fewer kills than deaths, that's an excuse to call them bad, even though that's how most supports typically play, and if the support gets any kills at all, that's them "stealing" from their carry. Either argument relies on a deliberate misunderstanding of what responsibilities the support role entails, and are simply a means to allow whoever's flaming you to vent, even if that in itself constitutes toxic behavior and puts themselves at risk. As a general rule, if a player tries to trash talk you for having a low kill/death ratio as a Soraka or any other typical support, they likely know full well they're being ignorant and wrong, they just want to flame you, and there's no real use to pointing out facts to them when they're intentionally being impervious to reality at that moment. The best course of action in-game is to ignore them, and report them post-match.

RedCycloneMay 21, 20172 votes

I still to this day see people using k/d as an excuse to rag supports and it boggles my mind, yeah they may be 0/5 but they have 18 fucking assists

KoKobotoMay 20, 20171 votes

I will almost never sacrifice myself if I am playing Janna Moses support. Sorry gotta keep my stacks.

ZelorxonMay 20, 20171 votes

absolutely false
you're not supposed to, especially because right now players should be knowledgeable enough about the game and situations "i have to suicide to bodyblock the cait's ult" don't happen since season 3, also, even in that case, you're not supposed to die unless the enemy is very very low and a wave is crashing onto your turret and the enemy jungler is far enough to not come and towerdive/force the adc out of lane
too difficult to stay behind your adc in lane uh, also in teamfights stay near your adc, if he knows how to play you can easily use him as a bait to land with 95% success a snare/silence and the adc will quickly dispose of the threat, assuming the teamfight isn't a complete fiesta where 3 people engaged on the adc/he's going full turtle and is flashing into 5 people to try and kill the enemy adc 3a) if your adc doesn't know how to play picking soraka is pure masochism and basically begging to lose
that's correct, nobody should sit on 2 wards as it's a bleeding of gold every time somebody spends time with 2 wards in the trinket, not counting lack of informations and map control

The average ward goal every player should look towards is 20 wards in 30 minutes with the trinket and 50 wards in 30 minutes with the sightstone.

Succubús GFMay 20, 20178 votes

Elaborate or stfu :) 2)Yes, you should, i as a support am worth far less and if it lands my adc a double/triple+ kill, i will die no matter what. Or if my adc gets 3v1d ill body block everything thrown at them. Why wouldnt i?
Read? An assassin who is fed will 100% jump on me and kill me before i can do much other than exhaust them And no soraka isnt masochism, i like playing her therefore i play her

MysterQMay 20, 20178 votes

Kill to Death ratio, not KDA.

Sir FuzziMay 20, 20171 votes

They don't, and they won't.

That's what we took on when we told ourselves we enjoy support.

xWatersMay 21, 20171 votes

Idk I'm a support main and my kdas are pretty high

Chembaron YamadaMay 21, 20171 votes

He said kill to death ratio, not KDA. KDA means you count in assists and this should be positive.

VoraciousXMay 21, 20171 votes

It's possible for sightstone to run out of charges? You get 3 charges and they refill automatically when you back. You must never back if you run out of charges, as whenever I've bought the item I always had at least 2 charges I couldn't use most of the time. Not to mention it's 4 if you upgrade to ruby, which, unless you build the starter item into the sightstone build, you should probably do, and then they hold 4 charges.

ProfirixMay 21, 20171 votes

You clearly arent placing enough wards then. You should aim for 3 out at all times, plus 1 vision ward. And you should move your vision (delete) a ward to place a better one.

VoraciousXMay 22, 20171 votes

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You clearly arent placing enough wards then. You should aim for 3 out at all times, plus 1 vision ward. And you should move your vision (delete) a ward to place a better one.

Or I feel like the wards I placed were appropriate and saw no need to overwrite them.

BigBellBruteMay 22, 20171 votes

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My kill/death ratio will never be positive unless i never die or take a bunch of kills by going ap or a kill lane

As a support ill die for my adc, EVERY TIME

as a soraka player, they can and WILL focus me, so dont flame me for dying more frequently as the assassin will 100% flash ult ignite me 4)If you have 2 wards available and ive run out of sightston charges and they die, use a ward and dont flame me, i will restock. I make sure to buy a control ward frequently and ward often, so blaming me for you getting two trinkets and not using them while you facecheck, is not my problem

If you don't get a kill you're a boosted animal that got carried. If you do get a kill you're a KSING scum of a support. Just accept this and move on.

k wìxMay 22, 20171 votes

So uh, support main here - i generally play @ gold/plat/diamond levels. I disagree with most of what you said:

1.) It is very possible to have a positive kill-to-death ratio as a support main. I am rated favorably on the majority of my games. Do not be afraid to making plays, or taking kills as the support. Do everything in your power to get the kill. Always. In terms of ratio speak, the real wisdom here is: don't undervalue assists.

2.) This is a foolish behavior. If your ADC is terrible, then let him learn his lesson through death. Rushing to save someone who was caught out can lead to a string of deaths that create a MAJOR problem. You can throw entire games with this mindset. Be practical. If you cannot save someone, move on. Play smart.

3.) Positioning is critical in all roles, but ESPECIALLY as support because you are fragile. You must learn not to feed. Being a support does not excuse your deaths. If you die, you are playing poorly. Aim for 5 deaths or less.

4.) In general - everyone should be warding more. This is your only point that I agree with.