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@Riot? WTF is goign on with nidalee changes?

SwiftKitten88··2 votes·872 views

> Nidalee > > Human > > Prowl (Passive) > [New effect] Prowl's movement speed duration (from brush) is doubled while a cougar [Now 4 seconds instead of 2 seconds] > Bushwhack no longer triggers a hunt. > > Javelin Toss (Q) > Minimum damage changed to 70/85/100/115/130 from 60/77.5/95/112.5/130 > Maximum damage changed to 210/255/300/345/390 from 180/232.5/285/337.5/390 > > Bushwhack (W) > Activation range increased to 200 from 150 > > Aspect of the Cougar (R) > No longer resets when a Hunt is triggered. > No longer resets Nidalee's basic attack. > > Cougar > > Takedown (Q) > Minimum damage changed to 20/40/60/80 from 4/20/50/90 > Maximum damage changed to 40/90/150/220 from 8/45/125/248 > AP Ratio increased to 40% from 36% > Damage vs hunted targets increased to 40% from 33% > > Pounce (W) > No longer reduces to an 'enhanced cooldown' if Nidalee kills a unit while in Cougar form, or pounces on a hunted unit for the first time. > Now slows Hunted targets by 50% for 0.5 seconds. > Now fully resets on champion kill or assist. > > > Aspect of the Cougar (R) > No longer resets Nidalee's basic attack.

ok so your buffing her spear and her takedown and you making pounce reset on kill or assist. instead of when killing a unit or a hunted target

so you WANT her to throw spear until she can pounce in?

Wasn't the ENTIRE point of her rework to make it so she has to pounce in to trade and take damage and then pounce out?

and her traps.. um WHAT do they do now? what is their intended purpose? according to the post the damage wasn't changed meaning the ONLY thing they do is 40 +.2AP and since they no longer proc hunted... what the hell are we supposed to do with them?

why are you giving nidalee a reset on pounce on a kill?

she isnt trist.. she isnt kha, pounce has a VERY short range unless its empowered.

and WHY OMG WHY!!!! are you buffing her movement speed in bush in kitty form? she does NOT need to get around the map faster.

also... WHY would you remove the kitty form no longer resetting when hunted is procced? the defeats the entire purpose of using cougar form to travel the map if you transform out of it and land a spear.. you need to wait 3 seconds to pounce in becuase you cant swap back to cougar.

i have no idea wtf is going on...

PLEASE can we get some context because i seriously have NO idea what your trying to do...

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Support Bοt3 votes

Well. I just stop to believe that Riot will make nidalee viable on top again. Good job riot. You made a monster in jg, and you killed her lane completely. Now you are reducing her jungling ability, making this champion more and more weak. She has no tankyness She has questionable dmg She has high mobility to run away (this is the only purpose of this champion), after rework she has also high mobility to chase enemy, but when you jump too far you are dead. Coz you have nothing else than Q R W Q combo. After this you kill or be die.

Now you buffed her Cougar Q... it will be disaster. I just predict that it will be nerfed again.

The only words that are appropriate in this moment:

Riot. You. Are. An. Idiot.

SwiftKitten882 votes

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Well. I just stop to believe that Riot will make nidalee viable on top again. Good job riot. You made a monster in jg, and you killed her lane completely. Now you are reducing her jungling ability, making this champion more and more weak. She has no tankyness She has questionable dmg She has high mobility to run away (this is the only purpose of this champion), after rework she has also high mobility to chase enemy, but when you jump too far you are dead. Coz you have nothing else than Q R W Q combo. After this you kill or be die.

Now you buffed her Cougar Q... it will be disaster. I just predict that it will be nerfed again.

The only words that are appropriate in this moment:

Riot. You. Are. An. Idiot.

so now nidalee is NEVER EVER goign to pounce in unless she can get a kill. RIOT!!! I DONT WANT SEASON 3 NIDALEE BACK I WANT SEASON 4 NIDALEE BACK

100T iLL1 votes

keeping her from laning

A Liberal1 votes

Honestly if anything this is forcing her into a lane. Her jungle clear is going to be a lot worse now, since literally 80% of the use of her traps was for triggering hunts for jungle clears. Now that that is gone, and they are buffing her artillery power, I can easily see her being played as a mid/top lane artillery mage with an all in option.

SwiftKitten882 votes

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Honestly if anything this is forcing her into a lane. Her jungle clear is going to be a lot worse now, since literally 80% of the use of her traps was for triggering hunts for jungle clears. Now that that is gone, and they are buffing her artillery power, I can easily see her being played as a mid/top lane artillery mage with an all in option.

she cant lane if she cant TRADE in lane.

if pounce only resets on a kill or assist she is going to lose every trade if she pounces in becuase she will be stuck in there for 5 seconds with no escape after she blows all her cooldowns.

her trade relies on her pouncing in takedown swipe and then pounce out before they can match the damage. if she cant get out and is stuck in melee form with no abilities for FIVE seconds she is going to take way more damage than she is going to do

the reaosn why she was able to lane pre-rework with only human form was for a few reasons

first off spear did about 150% of what it does now, the channel time on the spear was TWICE as fast, and it was wider her traps also did 80 base damage at lvl 1 with .4 AP proced in an AOE, revealed stealth for 8 seconds, and game magic and armor pen 20% and they lasted 4 min. and had a MUCH larger vision radius when placed

according to this rework her traps now are single target.. dont even reveal, have 40 damage + .2 ap and have no pen and they last 2 min have a 400 vison radius when placed

her heal has a short cooldown and had a higher lvl 1 heal and had a .7 AP ratio instead of a her current .5ap ratio

and MOST importantly she had a 0.670 attack speed instead of a 0.638 and her base attack damage had 5 more Ad than it currently does

A Liberal1 votes

I agree... they have nerfed her SEVERAL TIMES based on the fact that Q in both human and cougar form did too much damage. Now they are buffing her q's and nerfing her mechanics to be able to utilize them...? I don't understand why........

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