@meddler, about the current fizz state.

RexSaur··6 votes·470 views

Are you/the balance team ok with his current state?

Dont you feel that there is too much focus on his ult with his rework? With the W changes fizz kit cannot function past the 25 min mark without his ultimate, he cannot even attempt to kill adcs or mages as those will "assassinate" him faster than he can do damage to them due to the fact that 2s is too long of a time late game before he does any kind of sizeable damage to the target.

I would be happy to have some hitbox adjustements on the ult but in trade make it so his W scales down with either champ levels or cdr down to something like 1s~, so he can actually try to do something without his ult, hes just completely worthless against any kind of support or tank/defensive champ late game and he also cannot kill squishies without ult (basically hes a ult bot at that point)

Or at the very least his E needs a lower CD so he can survive the fights better, a melee squishy assassin that only has 1 defensive tool that often has to be used to get in range cannot survive in melee range for 2 seconds against any champion that isnt a 0 damage support/tank.

Regardless of his power level, a lot of fizz otp/players have simply stopped playing him until further changes/buffs, simply because his play pattern was changed too much and doesnt even properly function (as it is right now fizz has a garbage early game, good mid and garbage late), you can go read any of the multiple posts in /r/fizzmains if you want to confirm that.

Basically his kit needs some changes so his play pattern flows better/he feels less clunky to play and so he actually has a late game again (and some sort of plan B in case he doesnt have ult up).

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Aritra3 votes

I agree so much with this, lategame i feel like my only purpose is to get a max size shark on cc'd enemies, and thats pretty rare, at most i hit 3 people for decent dmg but i cant even get my w proc off later on in the game, i just get blown up. Early game laning is still just as bad imo also.

RexSaur1 votes

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I agree so much with this, lategame i feel like my only purpose is to get a max size shark on cc'd enemies, and thats pretty rare, at most i hit 3 people for decent dmg but i cant even get my w proc off later on in the game, i just get blown up. Early game laning is still just as bad imo also.

Yeah, his power curve right is now Bad > good > Bad as early/mid/late, if he ever falls behind at any point in the game he becomes a ult bot (and he cannot really kill anything without ult late game aswell, even with 6 items as 6 item adcs will just right click and delete him before 2 seconds passes).

His late game would be more pratical if his W had a less wait time late game (2s is ok for lane/early game, not for late).

RexSaur3 votes

I guess riot doesnt give a shit about fizz, first he gets this half assed rework and now they just forget he exists (hell even champs like kat who are much better than him as a rework right now are getting buffed on pbe).

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