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@Problem of the TANK JUNGLERS - I think 50% problem is still there. Let's discuss

XuWarrior··4 votes·1,079 views

What problem was solved :

1)Bami's Cinder 2)Cinderhulk Enchantment

Perfect Item's for Tank junglers right ? RIGHT

What Problem is not solved ?

The problem of 1st clear a up to 6-7 MINUTES in the game where you will be still out classed by fighter classes.

  1. Tanks still suck at 1st clear . Sorry but they still suck. I know Gromp was a lil bit buffed . Compare them to fighter class

2)Bami's Cinder = 1000 gold Cinderhulk Enchantment = 2200 gold TOTAL And you need buy 1st tier jungle item

If you will be lucky = You will be not gankin , you will be 24/7 farmin you gonna get your Cinderhulk around 7 minutes or even later on right ?

After you have CinderHulk , you can clear you can gank , you can protect , you can counter gank It's kinda Heaven for Tanks . They can finally works.

TLDR; I think half problems was solved half not.

And I would like to also show other problem .Tanks with "HP Scalin" on skills + CinderHulk gonna OutClass other Tanks. ( Sejuani , VoliBear , Zack) I think Riot should revisit some champions and maby put into them also HP scaling as DMG

Discuss ?

6 Comments

SmknWdl3 votes

Hmm... idk. Tanks are pretty good right now. Yes first clear sucks, but it's still survivable. Malphite is tank and has a... solid... first clear. (lol) And shyvana is also tank (at least how i build her) and she has a great first clear too. I think that there are some weaker clears, but lets face it. Who wants to be ganked by nautilus at level 3?

OhOkYea1 votes

Pretty much. Most champs that aren't meta junglers are behind before they even hit level 3. This is before the first back. Honestly, if a champ can't easily hit level 3 with just a machete (no pots, buy a ward) then it's not worth it.

Erockandroll1 votes

Too much focus on the fast clears. It should be understandable that Tank Junglers would have slower clears than Bruisers. (though it was by too much prior to the patch.) Most Tank Junglers should have more reliable ganks due to their engage focus. Only a hand full of Tank Junglers lack that kind of engage (Nunu and Sion(without ult))

I think the current changes on the PBE should allow Tanks to at least have healthier Clears, so that they are not as severely punished for the poor clear speed.

Remlap12231 votes

They're trying to fix this on the PBE. Basically they're lowering the HP5 to 6 on machete, but once you drop below 50% health, that jumps to 12. So Free Win is going to hit that range maybe once and get a 1/2 of a health potion's value out of his first clear, while Evelynn gets 2 or 3 health pots worth.

Solidair31 votes

You're a crazy person.

I've been playing Naut today, and I feel powerful. Like, really powerful. More than I've felt in a long time. If anything, I'm worried the buffs were too much.

Matthias91191 votes

If tanky junglers cleared as fast as bruisers/fighters, there would be very little reason to take anything else in the jungle. The idea is that tank junglers make up for lackluster clears with better ganks and/or team fight utility.

It was probably tilted too far in favor of bruisers/assassins before, but there still need to be trade offs.

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