Ranked Feels Bad in Lower Elos

Stephenizgod··82 votes·5,236 views

I know I am probably going to get automatic downvotes for the title alone, then a few more downvotes from people who legit disagree with me, but I don't care I feel like it needs to be said.

So I feel like I need to explain myself here a bit because I know my Match History is going to be brought up, people love to throw that in your face which is valid. Yup go ahead take a look, it is not good. I have lost a lot of games and in those games I have gone very negative. First off, it doesn't prove anything because you don't know what went down in those games. Second, i fully admit to playing badly recently, and its mostly due to the fact I am not enjoying the game very much. A lot of the points and arguments I bring up below APPLY TO ME AS WELL, yes I am guilty of some of the stuff I complain about. Just make sure you keep that in mind when you read this post, I am aware of my own misplays. Honestly I have been playing worse and worse lately, because I am having less and less fun. I look bot lane at 10 minutes and already they are 8+ kills down, I am being camped and enemy mid lane is roaming all over the place while our mid lane complains about us feeding them. I do play worse because I am tilted, which then effects my next game, same shit happens and I am even worse. I take a break and try again later or a couple days later, and same shit happens. So in my mind League is slowly becoming associated with this feeling of negativity. The more that builds up the less fun I am having because it is hard to just shrug it off, the less fun I am having, the worse I play, which feeds into the negativity and it goes on and on.

My hope with this post is that people see this and feel the same way, or perhaps it opens their eyes to what they are doing. If everyone is aware of these issues they can possibly make an effort to fixing it and in doing so will help others fix their issues. There will always be toxicity and imbalances in League, but if we as a community, can make an effort to not be negative it will improve the overall fun everyone is having. Ranked can be stressful, but remember one thing THIS IS A GAME. Ranked is also meant to be fun, it is suppose to be fun to test your skills against others. It is not meant to be as stressful and rage inducing as it is. Normals and Ranked are two different kinds of fun, but they are suppose to be fun at the end of the day.

Ok now on to the post:

A few seasons ago (before Season 6), Ranked was decided by who had the one person on their team who could carry the rest. It was 1-2 people going head to head to carry their team while everyone just sat there being heavy. Sometimes it was you, sometimes it was a teammates, sometimes it was an enemy (I am obviously speaking about lower elo since teamplay is generally more prevalent in higher elos from what I have seen). This obviously was not a good thing for a "team-based" game. So we have season 6 and the changes to turrets and how fast games are suppose to be ending.

Now you win or lose based on your team, sounds good right? Well no, no its not good for everyone because while the direction is good, the implementation is not good. For several reasons, some you may agree with and others you may disagree with, either way I do believe I am right because its my opinion. Just remember I am talking about Low Elo here, these things may not apply to higher elos. I know some of you may not care about us noobs but honestly this game is no fun right now, playing it feels like torture even when you are just trying to have fun.

#A) Papier-mâché cotton-ball launchers (AKA Turrets)

This was done, I believe, to counter the high elo/pro scene lane swaps right? Well I can't say if it worked or not because I am low elo noob, but what I can say is that it had a positive effect on "teamwork" but an incredibly large negative impact on "individual play/solo performance". What happens is the team that is more coordinated or just has naturally better teamfight, goes bot lane as 4 and murders the ADC and Supp at like level 4-6 and take the turret before the 10 minute mark... Good teamwork, great coordination, awesome strat, you get 2 kills, turret, and drag control. The issue is on the other side, the bot and supp who did not get their teammates help. There is literally nothing you can do, the turret is absolutely no threat anymore, and I mean literally zero threat... they would have to stand there taking turret shots for free for it to actually kill anyone (which does sometimes happen, i mean its still low elo). You can't kill 4 people and even if you did, you are both dead (maybe even more if your team did try to help but aren't a good teamfight comp) and there goes your turret and drag.

Top lane is decided by the jungler, and that is partly due to the Jungle and junglers in general being too strong, but what happens is you just get dove over and over again. It is not a matter of "should we dive?" it is "ok we are diving, who wants to take turret aggro first?" because lets face it you are most likely not going to die to the turret if you have 2 people. So again, your individual performance here doesn't matter unless you are just straight up stomping your lane, but that is irrelevant to my point because its situational. What matters here is teamwork, thats fine and dandy but no one likes getting dove time and time again while their team does their usual nothing... You don't decide what happens in this lane, your jungler does and if they are bad, well guess what you lost your lane. Now the Jungler should be the deciding factor here because that is what their role is, but being able to reliably and consistently dive someone under their turret with no threat to yourselves removes any chance of them being able to "outplay".

#B) Top Lane is probably one of the most frustrating lanes to play in (not the worst lane, just the most frustrating)

The last paragraph in the above point, bleeds over into this one but I didn't know which one to put it in. The jungler's impact on Top lane can be an issue if your jungler is not as good and it feels like you are being punished because your jungler has no presence. Almost like your skill or what you do just doesn't matter, you are going to get dove over and over again.

The viable top lane champions are fairly varied, but most of them are pretty unhealthy for the game (I mean wtf is Darius even... Sure you can counter him but if he isn't banned or you pick first its like dealing with an immovable wall that can 2 shot kill you then kill your jungler, even if you win lane he will just go kill your entire team...). So unless you are picking one of them, you do feel like you are at a disadvantage. It is hard to even roam bot lane with TP after those nerfs/changes so you feel even more isolated than before. Rift Herald is just not worth the risk... Unless Dragon is down and you already have the bot lane turrets, there isn't much reason to take it. It hits hard and has a lot of life, plus its impact, while huge, is isolated to one person basically.

This is why a lot of Junglers at low elo don't even bother coming top lane, which is frustrating for the laner because the enemy jungler doesn't always feel the same.

#C) Ranked should have been much much stricter at low elo

This I know will be a very unpopular opinion, because people are complaining about getting Bronze even though they were Silver 2+. However the issue is that last season was DYNAMIC QUEUE and a lot of these people were carried to their rank. This is a problem because right now, even though I am facing off against and with people of the same MMR, their mechanics, knowledge, and strategy is obviously far below everyone else. What happens is the better people feed off the worse people and steamroll the game or they just don't know what to do. I mean I don't know how many games I lost simply because my teammates didn't know how to end, like 3 inhibs down 50% hp Nexus and 3 of my teammates are off chasing the Nocturne in the jungle... You try to tell them what to do after the 4th time they run down mid lane and all die and they flame you non-stop. You try to tell them what your team comps strength is and they don't care they think everything needs to be decided with a 5v5 clash, even if you have been losing those every time you try. You try to tell them how to split and how to pressure lanes, and they are off farming the jungle or sitting in base waiting for gold to buy items.

Solution: Stricter rank placements. At low elo everyone is placed very very low, that way the "better" people will climb out very fast and the "not so better" people will slowly climb out, the "not good people" will stall and stay where they belong. I don't mind starting in Bronze 5 (I was placed in Silver 5 in both queues btw) because I can get out of Bronze easily, I have done it every season since I hit level 30 and started Ranked (since season 3). I honestly feel like this is what we need, a clean slate after the chaos that Dynamic Queue inflicted on the ladder.

#D) Auto-fill is just terrible...

I don't mind getting Auto-filled because the only role I am truly terrible at is ADC and most of the time people will switch with me because they don't want Support. However that is not the case for everyone, most people just don't want to play Support and 2 things happen they either dodge thus extending Queue times and nullifying the original point of having Auto-fill or they pick a Support they don't know how to play (i honestly don't understand why they pick Bard if they can't Support, it is always f*cking Bard... DON'T PICK BARD IF YOU CAN'T SUPPORT PLEASE) and end up playing bad or just straight trolling.

You can't tell when someone gets Auto-filled because most of the time, unless they get Support, they don't say anything. You only figure it out later when they pick something like Elise top after everyone has already picked and end up feeding and flaming all game. So not only do we have skill gaps like I mentioned in Point C, but we also have people who have been auto-filled into a position they are very uncomfortable in. This just makes all the above points worse because they can't play at the same level as their opponent. I am sure some of you are saying "omg you idiot it works both ways, the enemy team also has these issues", yup true and it does happen, when my team is stomping you better believe that is what I am thinking. Rarely ever "oh we outplayed them" its normally "damn they were just bad...". That doesn't make my point invalid though, why should a game be decided because Player X on Team B got autofilled and thus the game is lost?

#E) My final point: Toxicity, Trolling, and AFKing

I don't understand where Riot is getting their numbers on toxicity from but literally every game 1 or 2 people are toxic. It doesn't both me because I honestly find it funny, I mean someone raged at me asking if I was Autism, not "are you autistic" they said "Are you Autism???". It isn't a nice thing to say but I found it hilarious because its just ridiculous. If I am dead or running back to lane I will mess with them, which I know I shouldn't but honestly the game is usually done because they are spending more time typing insults than actually playing. It can be seen as a form of toxicity from myself, but it is 100% joking, wouldn't be surprised if I got punished though (i would prefer they also get punished in that case lol).

This real issue is that toxicity has a negative impact on the game, we already have all these points I mentioned and now the cherry on top is that everyone on the losing team is tilted, far beyond the point of no return. I try to tell people the game isn't over because its low elo and no one knows how to end, but they don't listen, they are tilted and too busy raging. Half the time they "AFK" but they do it in a sneaky way, they will run down lanes with no enemies and farm or farm the jungle or pretend they are split pushing or that they are defending, sometimes they will just straight intent feed but make it look like they aren't. Honestly I have done some of that myself, if I am pushing out a lane and my team suicides in a completely unnecessary 4v5, sometimes I won't recall... I will just keep pushing and watch the base go down :I. It is something I try to fix, because I get tilted and it negatively affects my games, but sometimes I am just too far gone myself.

Honestly I think Riot should be stricter on Toxicity in general, it is not uncommon to see someone obviously trolling and intent feeding in over 20 games straight. You report them, then a week later you see they are still doing that bullshit. Now I am not saying the ban system doesn't work because I get notifications all the time that someone I reported got punished, I just wish it happened more often. If the trolls get banned quicker and in greater numbers, it will help ALL elos.

My advice for my fellow low elo scrubs, just remember that it is just a game and try to have fun. The game isn't necessarily over, so don't lose all hope, mute your team if they are being toxic and try to press on by yourself. Don't waste time typing irrelevant things to your team, use pings or just go do what you want. If your team sees that what you are doing is working, they may just follow your lead. I talk a lot about how I lost games because my team doesn't know what to do, but I have won just as many games because the enemy doesn't know what to do.

This is something I need to tell myself too, even if you can pin the loss on a teammate, there is always something you did that was bad. Look for those instead of the mistakes in your teammates, because if you can fix those mistakes you will climb. If you fix your attitude you will climb too, and if the game is getting to be too much, TAKE A BREAK.

Good luck climbing.

131 Comments

Miror B8 votes

I can sum up my ranked solo-queue experience with two points:

Game1- I go vlad mid with flash/ghost, snowball hard by myself early game (go 5-0-1 in first 12mins), my botlane/jg feed entire enemy team (including my lane) massively, game goes 45mins before we eventually lose

Game2: I go viktor mid with flash/ghost, snowball hard by myself mid game (start 0-2 but then proceed to go 11-0-1), my botlane/top feed entire enemy team (including my lane) massively, game goes 45mins before we eventually lose

As you can see, no problems with bronze ranked right now.

TheIronRevenant5 votes

just git gud /s

Takazaki4 votes

+1

ShaolinToilet2 votes

You keep talking about snow balling yourself. You should be roaming more

Quil Evrything6 votes

good sentiment.. but WAAAAYY too long. Feels like you used 10,000 words or something. cut it down to about 1/10th that long, then people might actually read it.

Discoking33337 votes

he shouldn't cut it down people should be able to read. don't be so rude you live in a country that most likely tries to teach you how to read. its a gift so use it

Cowseed1 votes

What the heck is that supposed to mean?

This is so incoherent.

Slythion17 votes

he shouldn't cut it down, people should be able to read. don't be so rude, you live in a country that most likely tries to teach you how to read. it's a gift, so use it

you just needed to put 3 commas in there...it wasn't that hard to read

Cowseed4 votes

Translation successful. Thanks. The commas make it a lot easier to digest.

Slythion3 votes

gotchu bro ;)

ChaoticPinecone4 votes

You both are right and both are wrong.

People should be able to read long documents, but reading the same sentence or sentiment for 3 paragraphs means that the writer isnt concisely or coherently stating their point. Lets take a random segment I decided to quote from the original post:

{quoted}

#D) Auto-fill is just terrible...

I don't mind getting Auto-filled because the only role I am truly terrible at is ADC and most of the time people will switch with me because they don't want Support. However that is not the case for everyone, most people just don't want to play Support and 2 things happen they either dodge thus extending Queue times and nullifying the original point of having Auto-fill or they pick a Support they don't know how to play (i honestly don't understand why they pick Bard if they can't Support, it is always f*cking Bard... DON'T PICK BARD IF YOU CAN'T SUPPORT PLEASE) and end up playing bad or just straight trolling.

You can't tell when someone gets Auto-filled because most of the time, unless they get Support, they don't say anything. You only figure it out later when they pick something like Elise top after everyone has already picked and end up feeding and flaming all game. So not only do we have skill gaps like I mentioned in Point C, but we also have people who have been auto-filled into a position they are very uncomfortable in. This just makes all the above points worse because they can't play at the same level as their opponent. I am sure some of you are saying "omg you idiot it works both ways, the enemy team also has these issues", yup true and it does happen, when my team is stomping you better believe that is what I am thinking. Rarely ever "oh we outplayed them" its normally "damn they were just bad...". That doesn't make my point invalid though, why should a game be decided because Player X on Team B got autofilled and thus the game is lost?

The first paragraph isnt bad - its basically 1) People get autofilled, and 2) Autofillers either dodge or 3) Autofillers dont know how to play their role. its wordy, lacks punctuation, starts with an irrelevant comment and ends with a random rant about Bard, but generally gets the point across. But the second paragraph? The Elise example just restates that autofillers dont know how to play their role. Then it repeats the sentiment by stating that autofillers are in a position they are uncomfortable in. Then repeats it again by saying they cant play at the same level as their opponent.

You can cut this entire section down and get the point across. For example, by only saying the important points from this section, you can cut those 2 long paragraphdown into (I bolded the words I added):

2 things happen: they either dodge thus extending Queue times and nullifying the original point of having Auto-fill or they pick a Champion they don't know how to play and end up playing bad or just straight trolling. So not only do we have skill gaps like I mentioned in Point C, but we also have people who have been auto-filled into a position they are very uncomfortable in and can't play at the same level as their opponent.

I am sure some of you are saying "omg you idiot it works both ways. That doesn't make my point invalid though, why should a game be decided because Player X on Team B got autofilled and thus the game is lost?

Stephenizgod15 votes

I am sorry it was too long, but if it is too long for you to read than you are not the targeted audience :\

Quil Evrything1 votes

so.. your target audience is "people who wont make a difference because they're 1% of the reaaders".

If you actually Want To Make A Difference, you should be aiming for upvotes. which means the more readers the better.

Stephenizgod26 votes

I am trying to make a point not farm upvotes, i could have just posted a picture of cancer and said "Yasuo top lane" and gotten 100 upvotes. I don't care if its too long really, I just wanted to speak my mind and hope that people read it and agree.

xXMrPeanutXx3 votes

Please never change, continue broadening your mind and bringing valid questions to the table <3. I for one read the entire post and find your post extremely accurate and valid. A quality read for me is much more enjoyable than a dulled down one with very little explanation, and infact what will happen when you makes posts like that ( I have on a different account which has some of the "best of all time" posts on the boards) , you will find the comment sections nit picking on the "if,ands or buts" that you should of mentioned rather the sentiment of the article

Popppyseed4 votes

You shoudnt apologize for it being long. You should write till you get your entire point across.

Gamer Life6 votes

I agree its just say every time. I take breaks for a few days, sometime long and when I come back its the same things over and over again. Riot say there improving things, I am yet to see this.

Alaric The Sic3 votes

First off all if you want to win more games at that Elo use this:

/mute all

Legitimately you will win more games.

Secondly play meta champions. They are good for a reason.

Thirdly you can very easily solo carry games especially at that Elo. You need the game knowledge and skill level to do it though.

Gamer Life6 votes

if you read his post its not about playing meta champs

Discoking3335 votes

I know where the writer is coming from unless you have played in bronze 1 or below in the last month you would know you can not 1v5/1v9 anymore

Stephenizgod8 votes

I don't want to come off as confrontational but I did say in my post that I don't care about toxicity. That isn't an issue for me to be honest, but I do agree that most people should /mute all.

This post isn't about metas or champions being broken. It is about how the game is being changed and how people are negatively reacting to it.

It is not easy to solo carry any more, it can be done, but it is not easy. I also don't generally play champions capable of actually 1v5ing.

Also if i was truly capable of doing it, I would have done it. I am not capable of doing it hence why I am low elo, the issue is not that I can't carry, it is that the game isn't fun because I HAVE to carry or we lose and it is too hard for me to carry. I should be rewarded for playing well, i shouldn't have to be able to 1v5 and take all the turrets by myself.

Cowseed4 votes

People who don't play meta champions.....

don't play them because they want to play things they like and win instead of trying to learn to play things they hate and win in a cookie cutter way.

Cocho3 votes

ranked feels bad at all elos

Stephenizgod2 votes

That is what I have noticed watching a lot of high elo players, but I figured the issues were a bit different. I could be wrong but at least you expect people at Diamond to have good mechanics and knowledge. At my elo you expect them to have zero mechanics and knowledge and that you have to guide them and play good.

Takazaki2 votes

dont bother, the true secret to bronze. just kill them, repeatedly, you can force objectives out of it which will net wins. play late game champions because low elo doesnt close out games properly more then halve the time. IMO Ad champions are better because of their objective taking power, not saying AP cannot do this its just you're much faster at it most of the time and can cheese objective gold a lot faster

Miku Append1 votes

{quoted}

ranked feels bad at all elos

Idk, in Gold at least they have some form of brainfunction.

Cocho1 votes

gold 2 gave me cancer

fuck gold

Faceplow3 votes

This is kind of long, but if you have doubts about the game or thinking about giving up, just give it a quick read.

I'm not a pro or anything, but from my experience during this season so far (just 40 games in.) I finished my placements and started in Bronze3 (my worse ever placement so far), I've never been below Silver. I was kinda bummed about my placements and thought about quitting ranked. Then, I said, let's see where I can get and how far I can go. So, the next 4-5 games I lose, end up dropping to Bronze4, now I'm really bummed and kind of frustrated with some of my team mates, trolling autofill supports, etc.

So, I just buckled up and found a champ and emergency back up champ, I'm consistently decent with, something where I can harass and win trades with, figure out some builds, masteries/runes combos, etc.

So, I'm (at the moment) one win away from Bronze2. I've gotten really lucky and I've only had to autofill a few times, but I don't mind because I mained support for the previous 3 seasons. I don't mind support, but I'd rather play a more significant role that can push objectives, because a huge majority of my games, both wins and losses, I feel like I'm the only one who's pushing objectives and not paying attention to the 20 kills/deaths difference. I'm looking at the real reasons games are won/lost.

I main top/jung this season, my KDA is absolute garbage, but my objective score is crazy high. People this season seem to have this over powering sense that this game is a death match and that the kills score is the determining factor.

You can't change tilting, trolling, afk'ing, dc'ing, etc. The only thing you have control over is you. Find a few champs that excel in certain roles and try different builds, masteries, runes, etc. Stop worrying about that 0/10 ADC, and just worry about you pushing that 2nd tower or getting the 2nd dragon, or gank or anything else. Just force yourself to focus on the objectives and put all the other insignificant stuff out of your mind.

I'm not having any more or any less fun atm, but I am (although my KDA says otherwise lol) focusing on the objective battle. I just have to work on how to not die so much. But, if it nets me a win, I don't mind going 5/16/9.

DB Gaming3 votes

I've played a lot of this game over the past few years, I've watched the pros, LCS... I played a bazillion bot games before I even started playing pvp because I didn't want to be the anchor my team has to carry around. Long story short, I don't feel like people do that at all.... Too many games I see an 0-8 top laner or jungler at 10 minutes telling me they just hit level 30 and they're sorry for playing so badly...

Right now low elo is hell because it's a mix of those fresh level 30s who are trying to get ranked mixed in with smurfs and sandbaggers. So one team can have a gold from last season mixed in with 4 unranked people fresh off their level 30 and the other team can have 5 plats from last season who've been sandbagging so they can have fun crapping on less experienced players.

I do not enjoy playing this game anymore, at all... every single game is a stomp one way or the other because of the giant disparity in skill... even the wins feel terrible. Fix your game riot. Fire the people reponsible for balance becaues they have failed. Autofill breeds troll supports and team tilters... there's just nothing redeeming about this game anymore.

Stephenizgod6 votes

Yea I think Riot should make it so unranked players automatically start and play at Bronze 4-5 MMR. If they are better than those people they should get MMR boosts, if they are worse they won't really have to worry about dropping lower.

Well currently, since I was Gold last season, I am facing other Gold players in Silver. The issue that I have found is that because I am Silver 5 currently, it is so close to Bronze that the people who are legit climbing out of Bronze are in my games. So we have people who made it to Gold and Plat last season playing with people who are legit Bronze-low Silver all in the same games. The game is often decided on what position those lower elo players get. If they are ADC or Jungler, the game might as well be over for you because those 2 roles currently have the most impact.

So that is why I was suggesting that Riot's placements be stricter, the not so good people won't really hinder the people trying to climb and vice versa.

Syllann1 votes

And you always get commented on "how did you make gold last season" right?

Stephenizgod3 votes

Nope not really, I mean I get called a bronze scrub sometimes but no one really questions how I got Gold. Even if they did I don't really care, I didn't boost myself like most people. I have hit my promos to Gold V every season since I started Ranked back in Season 3. The issue was I couldn't complete my promos, i would win up to my promos multiple times but could never complete them. In Season 4 and 5 I failed them more than 15 times, it was miserable. Promo Helper is what actually got me into Gold V, so I believe I earned it by myself. Promo's are a dumb system anyways lol

10Tickler2 votes

B) Top Lane is probably one of the most frustrating lanes to play in (not the worst lane, just the most frustrating)

Try coming bot and playing support for about 10 games, then talk to me about Frustrations. There's nothing half as infuriating as having 3-5 people in your lane from Minute 7 until either the turret's gone, or they've harvested 10+ kills, while your toplane doesn't shove, and your mid won't come help.

Papa Andrei2 votes

I feel you. I love supporting and just being a debuff buff bot and watching my team just get stronk and kill things. But I haven't even touched support role in a long while, its so bad. You either win lane, but their jg got fed off the top and mid and comes and wrecks you, or you go even and 4 man dive with all the hyper mobile champs that can dash in and out for aggri

Syllann2 votes

I feel the struggle, I love drawing jungle/mid attention to my lane from my playstyle because it opens up the map, and I'm having issues with people in free lanes still trying to last hit or freeze the lane and not shove, and spread the map back out with an advantage for us with xp/cs loss. But one of these days ill get a team that understands basic game knowledge and win with it

Stephenizgod2 votes

I am actually a Supp/Top main, I understand the frustrations of being a Support. I still think Top is more frustrating, at least Bot lane will have an impact if they farm for 20 minutes and they have Dragon to contest. Top lane is an isolated island, whether you are the one being camped or they are, its a hopeless situation. It is also very frustrating to watch your team lose, knowing there is nothing you can do about it because if you TP to help there is very little chance you can make a difference but a 100% chance you will lose your turret and your lane opponent gets free farm.

Bârd2 votes

Ha.

i t d o e s n t g e t b e t t e r

Swarovsko2 votes

I agree with you, I experienced most of these issues in Silver/Gold elo. I honestly think you should lose/gain PL based on the amount of turrets you took, KDA, heals, damage, farm, blocked damage (by that I mean how useful your shields were) etc... instead of losing 21 PL because when the laning phase ends you find yourself in a situation where the enemy Caitlyn and Nami are 7/1/1, 1/0/6 and your bot is flaming/trolling while being 0/99999999/0.

I'm not a native speaker, sorry if I made mistakes.

TheDarkinLegend2 votes

"So I feel like I need to explain myself here a bit because I know my Match History is going to be brought up, people love to throw that in your face which is valid."

No, its not valid. I have never once looked at someones match history and then responded to their posts. I respond based on their words and the reasoning behind it.

Stephenizgod1 votes

The reason it is valid (or at least to me) is because I am here complaining about my teammates as if I am perfect and only lose because of them. That isn't the case and my Match History shows that in some of my matches. Plus even if my team is the reason we lose, some of my KDA scores are unacceptable, so it would be very hypocritical of me to complain about their lack of mechanics and knowledge when I myself am not doing great, even if I had sound logic and reasoning.

TheDarkinLegend1 votes

If you lose the match, then your KDA statistically will be worse as you face off against the fed enemies from the other lanes.

Targon2 votes

I played a game a couple of weeks ago where my bot lane had died a combined 3 times by the 8 minute mark. Their matchup was unfavorable, and the support died early. A few minutes later, they got ganked and the support and ADC both died this time. This was around the 8 minute mark, and the enemy ADC, support, and jungler were able to get bot lane turret down by 8 minutes 30 seconds into the game. The amount of pressure that put on the rest of my team was massive. My bot lane was pretty much cut out of the game. Mid and top lane had a ton more pressure against ganks, and dragon had to almost always be forfeited due to how much control they had early on in the bot side.

It feels as though the game snowballs too hard these days. Making one or two mistakes shouldn't feel as though you've lost the game completely. That's my frustration with League at the moment.

Stephenizgod1 votes

Only 3 times? Man usually by 10 minutes one of the bot lanes or jungler is up 6+ kills lol

People have been complaining about the game being too snowbally since i started playing back in Season 3, except for during the Tank Meta, they always say "its getting more and more snowbally" but in reality I don't think it is. The games are just ending sooner and require a lot more teamwork than before. It feels more snowbally because if your team does not get its shit together quick enough there is nothing you can do, which is what I believe Riot wanted. Its no different than last season where one champ got 3 kills before 15 minutes and suddenly were steamrolling the entire game, now its one Role who gets fed (usually bot or Jungler)

TheHypeGoku1 votes

Placed Bronze 5 on my smurf. Went Garen ADC. Not only won, but I obliterated their team. Constantly 1v3'ing and 1v4'ing and coming out on top. You're either going to be good enough to carry and get out of there or you're in the elo where you deserve to be. If the other team or your team is dependent on one player to carry them and you're not that one player, then you don't deserve to win. Simple as that. People need to stop their b*tching. Either you climb or you don't. The system is the way it is, and no matter what system is used, no matter what the meta is, people who are able to adapt and play better than others will win.

EDIT: The reason anyone above platinum doesn't complain about ranked is because they realize what it takes to climb and how you actually do have to be the best player on both teams. If you're not, then you're either ranked too high or where you should be. Low elo people have always complained about ranked. They btched and cried about the system before there was divisions, and they will btch and cry no matter how you change it.

Stephenizgod1 votes

Well I don't really want to argue but here goes:

I am not trying to offend Bronze 5 players, really that isn't my goal, but you can do pretty much anything in Bronze and still win. Once you reach a certain level of mechanical skill and understanding of the game, you can leave Bronze fairly easily and quickly.

In Silver it is a bit harder to carry, unless you are way higher skill level in which case your opinion is null and void. People tend to understand enough of the game to not let you just steamroll their turrets and you can't just dive them under turret by yourself unless incredibly fed. The issue is that one both teams you have better players and worse players, the game is decided on who is in what roles. It makes it hard to carry because if your Jungler and ADC are worse, you will struggle since those are the 2 most important roles right now.

Also I see people in Plat+ complaining all the time, every post you see like mine has multiple people in Plat+ saying that it is the same in their elo. The issue is how the ranking system works, you have worse people being matched with/against better people. Since this is a team-based game, it feels bad to lose because your team.

notmebuthim1 votes

Ranked a lot of the time feels like a team of 4-3 players trying to carry the 1 or 2 really bad players against another team doing to the same. I think auto fill is not so bad, I mean support. I think playing support can be fun. It really isn't that hard. Play morgana, land q and gg.

Stephenizgod2 votes

Man I have had to carry 2 out of the last 3 games I played, like it was me and a Jhin in one game, then just straight up me in another. The issue is when I can't do that lol then I get frustrated that its me carrying or we lose.

On a side note, Morgana is my favorite Support, in fact she is my favorite mage, specially Top lane :D

Shifue Draven1 votes

Honestly i am really disenchanted with ranked right now I know i am not perfect on my games but i think i do rather well but it seems everytime i get into promos that is when i get the most god awful team to ever disgrace the rift. This happened to me all last season and i quit after 8 straight runs at promo and all of them failing.

Stephenizgod3 votes

Yea I know that feeling, every season i failed my Gold promos multiple times, Season 5 i think i failed 15+ times before giving up. I got Gold eventually :D so I am sure you can climb.

GayFluffyUnicorn2 votes

I play since s2 and even though that is anectodal i can tell you that indeed during promos you will have worse premades. I read it a long time ago that when you are on a winning streak you are more likely to get placed with worse teammates/losing streak teammates. Once you have a losing streak yourself you also get placed with worse teammates thus creating that cycle of getting to promos with ease from then on you suddenly get shit on so heavily you drop all the way back. From my PoV that's just a huge scam and when i have a winning streak, stomping my enemies i should be placed with AND against better player not worse teammates+ even better enemies.

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