Unpopular opnion : Zoe is actually one of the better designed champs lately

Rexxiee··6 votes·1,029 views

Shes one of the few that arent massive powercreeps, in fact its surprising that CertiantlyT actually made her.

What does zoe do? High poke/burst damage with her E + Q, shes good at catching ppl and can win TFs with that.

Thats it, she dosent double as a tank or bruiser, she doesnt have stealth, she cant dash whevener she wants, etc, basically she is a focused champ that just does one thing and shes good at it and thats it.

Really the only thing you could argue about her that is too much is her W, which honestly maybe shouldnt even drop on minions or it should not do damage/MS, as getting a summoner spell is already strong enough, and its supposed to be a weakness on her kit when she cant get access to one, its just that it almost never happens becuase of minion drops + it not having a CD.

But if you ignore her W, you can see that her design is miles better than pretty much every new release, shit like pyke that is just overloaded abilities on top of overloaded abilities.

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CauseSCIENCE3 votes

A message for all the haters: Learn to dodge You can easily tell when she's gonna try and hit you.

Beatrice falls2 votes

I can say this about any burst mage. "Just dodge", no. Her E is overloaded, rewarding her for missing it

S V 2 votes

She's fun, she has a lot of potential and requires a noticeable amount of skill to play and land skillshots, and her kit is extremely strong in the current meta. I commonly hear how she's, a dumb champ, needs a nerf, and other comments on how easy she is to play but her combos, in my experience, take a decent amount of effort to pull off. If she needs a nerf on anything it would be that her W should cost some form of mana. Having a free Summoner Spell or Active every few minion waves is pretty strong considering her core damage can be pulled off with E Q or just Q. Pyke is just all over the place and a pain to play against. He doesn't have a lot of repercussions especially with that Tahm healing and high mobility to roam and gank.

Your opinion might be unpopular but there's a few people like me who agree with you... I hope.

UnboundHades2 votes

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She's fun, she has a lot of potential and requires a noticeable amount of skill to play and land skillshots, and her kit is extremely strong in the current meta. I commonly hear how she's, a dumb champ, needs a nerf, and other comments on how easy she is to play but her combos, in my experience, take a decent amount of effort to pull off. If she needs a nerf on anything it would be that her W should cost some form of mana. Having a free Summoner Spell or Active every few minion waves is pretty strong considering her core damage can be pulled off with E Q or just Q. Pyke is just all over the place and a pain to play against. He doesn't have a lot of repercussions especially with that Tahm healing and high mobility to roam and gank.

Your opinion might be unpopular but there's a few people like me who agree with you... I hope.

So a pyke having to actually jump on you to kill you is more unbalanced then zoe hitting e through a wall and either 1 shorting you or chucking you making you back along with her w and passive make fighting her as a mage even more cancer since she doesn't even need to land anything

S V 2 votes

Pyke's ulti is near instantaneous with reset casting, gold giving, executing capabilities. Zoe E takes some time to go through the wall and needs to combo properly with Q. I don't play either champ as my main but if you asked me who I would rather face be it a Pyke support or a Zoe mid, I would choose the Zoe mid. (As in like teamwise not 1 v 1s).

UnboundHades1 votes

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Pyke's ulti is near instantaneous with reset casting, gold giving, executing capabilities. Zoe E takes some time to go through the wall and needs to combo properly with Q. I don't play either champ as my main but if you asked me who I would rather face be it a Pyke support or a Zoe mid, I would choose the Zoe mid. (As in like teamwise not 1 v 1s).

Pykes r is useless if you actually play around it instead of clumping together making him actually able to chain his r

And it puts him to the person he killed so you know where he's gonna be to kill him if he goes for the kill with r and it's hard to dodge with any form of mobility since even aatrox e can dodge it from the center

Xavanic1 votes

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Pykes r is useless if you actually play around it instead of clumping together making him actually able to chain his r

And it puts him to the person he killed so you know where he's gonna be to kill him if he goes for the kill with r and it's hard to dodge with any form of mobility since even aatrox e can dodge it from the center

So by not clumping together, you mean not grouping and not teamfighting? the range of his ult is very high, avoiding his ult isn't exactly easy, but if a champ forces you to split push and not group, that's definitely nerf worthy

MorganFreemanBot2 votes

The only issue with Zoey, in my opinion, is how her E stays on the ground after you miss it.

Given how world-shatteringly powerful an ability it is, it's pretty assinine that 'missing' can still result in completely blocking off an area for such a long period of time. This is extremely true to the jungle, where she can cut off entire paths just by plopping it in the middle.

Astorine2 votes

"if a master comes at you with their speciality, then you are defeated before you can comprehend, and zoe is that, a master". She is still bullshit to fight due to how long range and overwhelming her E is, and her W coming from minions is gross really.

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