I hope these ADC changes are backfiring in your face Rito.

50CaliberHecate·Jun 22, 2018·8 votes·2,220 views

Pretty ridiculous playing a game against bruisers but that's meta it seems. I've played so many games just watching people instalock non-adc champs just because you ruined them. There are still some players choosing an ADC champ because that is their main probably, but lets be real... even if that ADC gets fed, champions like Darius still somehow control the game much harder after 20 minutes. It's almost hilarious.

Just revert these damn changes you've made and leave it be. This has to be such a big fucking hick-up I wouldn't be surprised if you just forfeit ties with WAY more players than the common quitter.

20 Comments

ChaddyFantomeJun 22, 20185 votes

God forbid you can play anything other than a ranged AD auto attack champion bot.

TesladinJun 23, 20184 votes

yeah you can play anything except ranged AD auto attack champion in her own lane

ChaddyFantomeJun 23, 20182 votes

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yeah you can play anything except ranged AD auto attack champion in her own lane

Marksman don't "OWN" monopoly of the Botlane.

TesladinJun 23, 20182 votes

They did

Critmaster GarenJun 23, 20181 votes

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They did

thats the problem. no other lane "belonged" to a singular class. bit shouldnt either.

plus, its bullshit that they cant still be played down there. theyre perfectly viable.

LimmieJun 23, 20182 votes

No, the problem is that Riot has been creating ADCs balanced around being in a lane with a support for years so now they have nowhere to go because they have an useless early game, unreliable self peel and scale exclusively out of items. If Riot wanted to unlock botlane for everyone then they shouldn't have created a whole class locked down to it.

TesladinJun 23, 20181 votes

ADCs being a class that can't play without support is very good design, unlike every other class. That's not a problem.

Btlane shouöldnt be unlocked for everyone because everyone have 4 other lanes where ADC is not viable anyway

If you look at Pros who are good at 1-2 ADCs picking totally different champions the no, ADCs are not viable except the few non-crit adcs

50CaliberHecateJun 23, 20181 votes

Exactly. Why make a role that requires the peel of a damn support just to force them to leave the role period. What’s worse is now not only is ADC down hill, it feels like supports are too after recent nerfs to support shields and items.

And their goal to situate snowballing has never been worse. You give a Zed or Yasuo one damn kill and then they carry hard the rest of the game like wtf?

TesladinJun 23, 20181 votes

Vladimir Jax botlane does not need a support, so might as well go like Yorick DrMundo with item 3302 or even Pantheon item 3301 for a second botlaner

ToppienJun 23, 20185 votes

i had to change kai'sa as my main instead of Jinx, but ill never sriously goin bot with a melee, cuz that IMO is just plain trolling

you know what ive seen in all games ive been playing recently?

Sivir MissFortune Lucian Kaisa Draven Draven Draven

you failed riot, you tried to change the meta but you just reduced the number of viable champions botlane

AR URFJun 23, 20184 votes

it's not just the crit changes. They screwed ADC when they changed lord dominicks by getting rid of giants belt. lifesteal feels god awful now because you'll need those slots for damage items.

AzadetheJun 22, 20183 votes

You do realize all these champs that are now migrating into bot.... were always viable bot.... They just didn't like dealing with the hassle.

50CaliberHecateJun 23, 20181 votes

That isn't the issue though. "Off-meta" selections are suppose to be exactly that, not "oh, adc sucks so bad right now, let's make Darius the new meta." Idc if you play someone else as an ADC that wasn't originally suppose to be adc, but I do care when it extremely interferes with the winrate of almost the WHOLE role.

LimmieJun 23, 20181 votes

They were never viable bot because before the crit rework ADCs were strong enough to keep them out. Early ADC damage output has been completely gutted, which is why even being ranged no longer gives them an advantage.

AzadetheJun 23, 20181 votes

lulz. Ziggs has been laning bot since Season 6.

So has Morde.

Darius has been viable.

I've Bot Ahri'd. All the champs like Brand and Fiddler were already down there.

Adcs lost 2 AD early game in exchange for AD growth. If 2 AD is the difference between laning and not laning, you have problems.

Gutted. What a drama queen.

LimmieJun 23, 20181 votes

Mordekaiser has never been viable botlane even though his whole kit revolved around being botlane, so you couldn't have gotten a worse example if you tried. People preferred to take him toplane even though it meant losing on the exp inflation and the dragon ghost, that should tell you how much he sucked botlane. You could find examples of people playing weird things since ever, doesn't mean those things were ever viable.

Also you're ignoring how the items those ADCs relied were deliberately gutted early, with IE being given a deliberate awkward buildpath specifically for this reason. An ADC needs to farm before backing for longer and the items they do purchase offer less of a powerspike to booth. And if they are forced to back before having the that higher amount of gold they have to go back to lane with less stats than before, which makes having a bad early game even worse. Hence why their winrates dropped all across the board.

AzadetheJun 23, 20181 votes

Just another example of you being horribly informed/experienced.

Morde was common bot Season 7 because of how they adjusted item 3307 .

Mordekaiser was the friggin original abuser of dual support item bots. Adcs only picked it up after they began seeing Morde go bot and abuse dual relic shields to heal up the lane.

There's even a Masters player who has done this three consecutive seasons and reddit'd about it every season:

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/8p1nmm/i_just_hit_master_tier_playing_bot_mordekaiser/

IE is not an early game item omfg. I don't know where you get that by the time you could purchase it it's early. It was more like a 10 minute buy unless you had a team explicitly feeding you.

Life steal items are cheaper, offer more utility than they ever have. I suggest you start building them instead of IE. 20% life steal as a first item has never been something to shirk at. In fact Draven has been getting it all along.

Kalista's been getting item 3153 all along.

I even First item item 3156 or item 3071 on Jinx..... and go 20 KDA games.

If you can't figure out the new build path. That's okay. it's still there. Just play something else until someone else discovers it for you.

Almost CreativeJun 23, 20182 votes

You can thank the people on these boards that was crying about ADCs and their damage. Before 8.11 it was thread after thread of non stop complaining about ADCs which had alot of upvotes and it caught Riot's attention. I don't know much about the subreddit though, if they were complaining as much.

CaptainAntiHerozJun 23, 20181 votes

The only problem I have really is... item 3095 The I'm bad at adc but hey damage op ftw Rip enchanter supports