Dear Riot, 2 major issues with 3c3

saltran··2 votes·230 views

As a usual Twisted Treeline player (I still play more in 5c5) I want to adress Riot 2 major issues with this current game mode that are not new but are ignored. I always thouhgt about making a thread about this but the last game I have played made me realize that someone should talk about this: Both of the problems I want to talk about can be perfectly seen in a my last 3c3 game, I'm not gonna lie, this is probably the best game to show what happens, usuaslly is not that extreme and not every game is like this.

(I'm trying to link the OPGG of the game but seems that I can't post it, if you don't believe me go check OPGG and it`s my only Shyvanna game in days)

First problem: MATCHMAKING, 3c3 is by far the worst balanced mode talking about pure elo. The game I just played ended at 15:40 and was:

-My team: Naut Top (Gold V) - Me as Shyvanna Jng (Gold V) - Zed Bot (Silver lll)

-Enemy team: Taric "Top" (Diamond V) - Illaoy "Jng" (Master in 3c3 and in Flex) -Syndra Bot (Diamond lll)

I know why this happens, I'm not stupid but the fact is that as someone who used to love playing 3c3 I don't have fun playing with such unbalanced teams, so I quit 3c3 and then is even worse for the low elo players that keep playing 3c3, until they also quit 3c3 and etc: this will be always worse if Riot don't change something. We even talked with Illaoy at the end and she was kind and also was freaking out how can they (yeah, they were also premade and we don't) be matched against us.

The second big problem in 3c3 is one that is now trending on 5c5 but in 3c3 it has been like this for maybe years? I don't remember when did it start. And is even worse than in the Rift: SUPP ITEMS ABUSE: Just a bit different and way more op: Carry champ as a Jungler that starts with Relic and Flash/Smite and a Tanky Supp with also Relic and usually Heal/Exaust. The gameplay is both toguether all time farming Jng so the carry gets the gold and xp and then they roam to farm with the Relic and stay roaming all early they, It's not the most popular playstyle in normal 3c3 because is unfun to play as or against it but is indeed op in a way that you should play against it at least 1 time to really see how fked up is to aganist this. (the carrys are not usually ADCS, they were playing with Illaoy this time as carry so keep the adcs love from the Boards out of this post, most times are bruisers for what I've seen)

I'm not asking for a miracle about the matchmaking but I have to ask to Riot if they can see the state of Supp items in 3c3 (also in 5c5) because god nothing would make me more happy than removing this items from 3c3. Or at least if they can start caring just a little for 3c3 now that you even get a Chroma for the Victorious Skin by reaching Gold in 3c3. Also: Add a barrier that desappears at second 15 like in 5c5 please. If anyone actually read all of this thanks for reading. (english isn't my first lenguaje btw) Also if someone that mains 3c3 wants to correct me something I got wrong pls say it.

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Minarde1 votes

First problem: MATCHMAKING, 3c3 is by far the worst balanced mode talking about pure elo.

Slight correction first: the ranks you listed are off. You listed Solo SR ranks, which aren't too relevant to Normal Treeline. Treeline ranks would've been a bit more applicable.

Anyway, it's a similar issue to Normal SR games. People look at ranks, which don't necessarily correspond to Normal MMR, and then claim that matchmaking is faulty. In turn, people believe that matchmaking is faulty and mess around in Normals, which makes ranks and Normal MMR diverge further, which leads to more claims that matchmaking is faulty. Lower playerbase size in 3s probably exacerbates the issue. Not a simple problem to solve in general unfortunately.

SUPP ITEMS ABUSE:

Support meta was completely dominant for a while, then it got nerfed a bit. I think it was essentially "XP gain is reduced when you're over-leveled." Supposedly, Jungle meta is roughly equal to it now, but I'm not good enough at 3s to be able to say. I think it's nice for more than one meta to be viable in 3s though, as opposed to only having either Support or Jungle meta.

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