When i see Graves on the PBE

Pupel·Oct 31, 2015·5 votes·719 views

Holy shit CSing will be a pain in the ass

14 Comments

7ha7guy777Oct 31, 20152 votes

I'm more concerned with the projectiles stopping on the first enemy hit. Poking with autos can't be very effective as long as the minion wave/front line exist

OverpoweredSoapOct 31, 20152 votes

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I'm more concerned with the projectiles stopping on the first enemy hit. Poking with autos can't be very effective as long as the minion wave/front line exist

You don't really want to be poking with Graves that much anyways, he wants to go in and do damage.

Janna's a really really amazing pick for him, especially with the shield/heal mastery.

Faded LichOct 31, 20152 votes

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You don't really want to be poking with Graves that much anyways, he wants to go in and do damage.

Janna's a really really amazing pick for him, especially with the shield/heal mastery.

Blitz, Tahm, Thresh also really good. No need to go in when they can bring the enemy to you. Combine that with your E triple shot and the Q against the wall, if they get brought close against there will you WILL kill them..or burn there summoners.

PennsOct 31, 20152 votes

Except when you press Q and the whole wave dies Kappa123

NemeBroOct 31, 20151 votes

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Holy shit CSing will be a pain in the ass

How will it be any different from CSing on a melee champion?

JbelsOct 31, 20151 votes

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How will it be any different from CSing on a melee champion?

Because his AA is now on an ammo system, cs WILL be lost here and there to his own auto attack mechanic limiting his freedom on csing

ZarkkastOct 31, 20151 votes

You should not be attacking minions non-stop.

You should be freezing in the early game where this would be a problem.

By mid-late game one Q clears the entire wave so it's not a problem at all.

The only problem with Graves now is that he's countered by aggressive supports. He can't get close to a minion to farm if the enemy has a Blitzcrank, for instance.

Asayake 5150glowOct 31, 20151 votes

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You should not be attacking minions non-stop.

You should be freezing in the early game where this would be a problem.

By mid-late game one Q clears the entire wave so it's not a problem at all.

The only problem with Graves now is that he's countered by aggressive supports. He can't get close to a minion to farm if the enemy has a Blitzcrank, for instance.

Especially because he has to either get at an angle where he's exposed to shoot the enemy casters, or go behind the enemy melee minions.

NemeBroOct 31, 20151 votes

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You should not be attacking minions non-stop.

You should be freezing in the early game where this would be a problem.

By mid-late game one Q clears the entire wave so it's not a problem at all.

The only problem with Graves now is that he's countered by aggressive supports. He can't get close to a minion to farm if the enemy has a Blitzcrank, for instance.

I don't think Graves should go bot anymore.

Top lane or jungle are where it's at.

ZarkkastOct 31, 20151 votes

Nah, he should do fine bot. The only problem is he can't blind pick into a support. (I'd also definitely no recommend going against Caitlyn)

RivvyOct 31, 20151 votes

You can thank CertainlyT for this one as well.

Faded LichOct 31, 20151 votes

Graves is fine ._. he's actually rather strong right now in his current itteration and CSing isn't any place near as hard as you'd think it is. Only time it's a pain in the ass is when low minions dogpile behind each other, but then you know..Q.