Can Pyke's Heal have a slight activation delay?

JavelinJoe··30 votes·11,179 views

His ability to fight is pretty good when more members can follow up his engage. However actually killing him is tricky, since he has a nice escape with his E,W combo. And here is the issue. He heals rapidly the moment he presses W. Especially early on, that returned health is a massive difference. All he has to do is press W and move around for a second once out of range from using his E, and then right back in with a Q. This would be ok if he did not restore a quarter or so of his health in that brief second.

Just a second delay on his heal would be great for the early game since that kind of healing is fairly large for level 3 where simply entering a bush or pressing W starts it.

16 Comments

Salron14 votes

It should require him to be out of combat

SwiftKitten884 votes

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It should require him to be out of combat

i think it would be better if just decayed over time like TahmKench after not taking damage for a period of time and not being in vision...

i mean its already a free passive and he already has another 96% efficent HP to AD conversion ratio passive along with 450 free gold worth of lvl 1 base stats, that increases to just under 1800 free gold worth of stats by lvl 18.

those more than make up for the 4% he lost.. he OTHER passive he gets for free in addition to that doesn't need to be the most broken part of his kit.

SociaI Justice1 votes

free ... you really love that word don't you?

SwiftKitten881 votes

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SociaI Justice1 votes

free* my cats acting up again deleting shit

WorksAtAGayBar3 votes

Did they ever fix where he knows if a place is awarded just because his passive doesn't start? I really dislike that. I understand it's to keep things consistant but with vision being so low now a days, knowing a bush is warded so easily is a huge advantage.

SwiftKitten888 votes

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Did they ever fix where he knows if a place is awarded just because his passive doesn't start? I really dislike that. I understand it's to keep things consistant but with vision being so low now a days, knowing a bush is warded so easily is a huge advantage.

thats not a bug, its working as intended, i mean yeah it does tell him, but its better than him gaining the hp BACK even though he is still in vision

it wouldn't even be as much of an issue of his grey health didnt last FOREVER ( literally it lasts until he dies, there is no time limit.)

thats the dumbest part.. make his grey health deny or fall off after a time like 5-6 seconds os more than enough time for him to leave vision and heal.. he he donest do it by then it should be gone... or just make it decay after 2 seconds or something. he needs to be forced to leave vision to heal

Daddy Ants3 votes

It needs a cooldown or better yet to not exist.

He takes bad trade, run away and heals.

Fair gameplay tbh /s

Hayaishi23 votes

Pyke is pretty much unkillable. Between his dash/stun stealth and health regen he is lile the hardest champion to punish in the game.

He needs to be looked at.

He's also the only kill lane support you cant defeat as a poke lane even if he messes up because of how braindead his kit is, you can't punish him for messing up.

Mega Annie X1 votes

yes this is the sole reason he is the most broken support. It is literally Pyke vs the world. You can't poke him out and you damn sure can't out trade him in an all in. It is his lane for atleast 10 minutes guaranteed. Ganks mean nothing.

Illabethe1 votes

He really is killable. You just don't play the champs who do it easily. Pyke's average KDA is no better than any other diving assassin. In fact, even pros have trouble sustaining 3 KDAs on him. He dies. A lot.

DeathBurst2 votes

This, for once, is a reasonable suggestion. Good job and have your +1 :)

Ziggsing Around1 votes

But what's one of the points of him being broken. You can't change that 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Illabethe1 votes

49.8% Win rate sure seems broken.....

FatedSaviour1 votes

maybe instead of a delay, it heals slower, like the same amount, just slower

Illabethe1 votes

No. If you are a good player, you can prevent Pyke from healing even into his W. VISION. If you have vision, he cannot heal.

Learn to use it.

P.S. Ignite gives VISION Caitlyn's Ult gives Sight. Illaoi's Test gives Sight. Karma's W gives Sight.

There are a lot of skills in game that absolutely prevent Pyke from healing..... especially in team fights.

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