Shen has a higher base AD than Zed.

Marshbouy·Nov 9, 2016·5 votes·833 views

OMG rito please buff zed.

This is how stupid you people look when whining about X champion having more base health than X champion. If a tank is going to be intentionally building tank, why give it crazy high base stats if it is already going to be building tank? Especially when that tank has a multitude of ways to tank like shields and dodging AAs. That's like giving an ADC a super high base AD because it's an ADC. This applies to essentially all classes.

put simply You don't load a bunch of hp onto an hp stacking champion unless you want a champion with 6k health.

You don't load a bunch of AD onto an AD stacking champion unless you want a champion with 600 AD.

12 Comments

JustMonika13Nov 9, 20163 votes

People also forget that Shen has one of the best health steroids in the game.

But people will always bitch about certain champions, especially the Assassins and the Skirmishers.

MarshbouyNov 9, 20162 votes

Don't forget ADCs. Can't forget those.

1 800 Top LaneNov 9, 20161 votes

At the current rate, most late game Zeds have right around 500 AD. That's plenty.

The reason we have so many balance issues is because of the amount of damage in this game.

P.S. Zed also has passive AD added from his W. Which Shen does not.

MarshbouyNov 9, 20161 votes

and shen usually gets about 4k hp and a massive shield every few seconds + an AOE melee attack dodge.

The reason why we have so many balance issues is because of the amount of tank stats in this game.

???

ModWulf HelhammerNov 9, 20162 votes

The point

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Your head

MarshbouyNov 9, 20161 votes

He literally proved my point while managing to try and tear down my post...

1 800 Top LaneNov 9, 20161 votes

I think you're the one missing the point. If you took a second to think things through instead of whining about your main.

Zed has a lower AD than Shen because Zed has an AD scaling steroid on his W.

How are you that dense to not notice it?

Do you honestly think having 600+ AD Zeds is healthy for the game?

MarshbouyNov 9, 20162 votes

oh my god. that's literally what i'm stating in this post. "Shen has a lower base Hp than zed because shen is supposed to build hp and has tank stats in his kit." In this analogy Hp=AD Zed W=Shen passive and W

You don't load a bunch of hp onto an hp stacking champion unless you want a champion with 6k health.

You don't load a bunch of AD onto an AD stacking champion unless you want a champion with 600 AD.

1 800 Top LaneNov 9, 20161 votes

"OMG rito please buff zed."

If your post was about buffing Shen then I apologize.

MarshbouyNov 9, 20162 votes

It was about buffing neither and how throwing dumb shit at the wall like "jayce has more base health than X tanks" is an empty statement that means jack shit other than "wow, a champion that doesn't build health is given base HP so it doesn't die".

CalabokNov 9, 20161 votes

two totally different champs with totally different play styles.

no comparison.

JustMonika13Nov 9, 20164 votes

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two totally different champs with totally different play styles.

no comparison.

And yet people continue to cry and moan because Zed, an Assassin, has more HP than Shen, a Warden Tank, all while ignoring the fact that 1. Zed won't be building HP (besides Black Cleaver) and he needs his base defensive stats to fucking survive as an assassin, and 2. Shen has a monstrous Health Steroid in his passive. If we wanna add a 3. Shen needs his base damage stats to be able to duel effectively. Stats like these are the way they are for a reason, but people only bitch about the "toxic champions" and they don't cry about the fact that Shen has higher base AD than Zed, this is the OP's point. Neither need buffs based on the logic of "He has more of this than the other one!" Shen does need buffs, but totally not to his base stats.