Playing against this shit 
etc. as a melee is really fucking infuriating.
As long as flash exist ranged champs shouldn't get an "I fucked up" button in their kits. They shouldn't get a reward for being a front lining marksman
Gordo San5 votesThe best way to understand this, is to play range champs yourself, to see what the weaknesses are.
In general, you need to keep track of the skills they have used. Obviously if they have not used their escape, they are going to use it to escape (duh).
A lot of melee champs have "engages" which basically counter the ranged champs "disengage". And so it just comes down to who has flash or not.
TL;DR : Don't ask Riot to change the game so that YOU can play better. Adapt to the game and learn how to use current existing rules to make your play better.
Knight SoIaire 2 voteswhile you make fair points
i would like to state that this game is made in a way that fawours rangeds over meeles
what is the problem is that instead of making the interaction healthy ... riot just unloads more tools on champions making it even more volatile from champ to champ but creating some fair cases in the process
fight of ekko vs kalista/gnar is kinda fair right ... both of them can win
but fight of sion vs kalista/gnar is bs ... sion gets denied any possibility of actualy fighting besides a cheese e spam which got nerfed for being a cheese e spam that is uninteractive etc etc "good sions great sions and such bs because we nerrf for random reaons"
the thing is that ekko is made to catcha ranged champion who spits jumps on slows on other mechanics that make his kiting easier and more effective
while sion is made to fight on par with a ranged guy who isnt owerloaded
there is also the other case where those champions fight a ranged who isnt owerloaded with kiting stuff
now here ekko is unfair because he dominates said ranged guy while sion is simply fair
fight of yasuo vs tristana can be fair a fight of darius vs tristana has nothing fair within it
what you listed as op lacking in skill (stupid argument in such a discussion but whatever)... is in fact the unfair interaction that is allowed by riot to be in this game
and instead of fixing problems ... riot creates problematic sollutions and puts them in game
the end effect is ... problems multiply because every single problem is fixed with a solution creating 2 more
we are already living in the times where some meele champions can kite other meele champions
Gordo San1 votesYou are right, there are match-ups that are more favorable for certain champs.
But I feel like you are looking too much at the laning phase (1v1), and forgetting the league is a TEAM game. And team comps matter.
That's why there is a pick and ban phase, that is why draft is the way that it is.
You see what your opponents have selected, and choose champions that counter that, and in return, they choose champions that counter you.
Not every lane will have an advantage, you make sacrifices in certain lanes, to gain benefits in others.
Knight SoIaire 2 votesthose arent matchups
im speakign teamfights and skirmishes specificaly
beetwen the initiator/assasin and the marksman/mage the side who has more tools is the one who has higher probability of succes
either your tanks/assasins spam their mobility till enem carry has everything on cd and gets collapsed on or your carry outjumps any attempt of your team to engage on him
those 2 cases are insanely dependant on champions who participate in them and i think that they do hapen in every game
You see what your opponents have selected, and choose champions that counter that, and in return, they choose champions that counter you.
and 80% of champion pool becomes crap because other champions compete more ... oh wait that already happened (and this is the thread that condemns this fact ... and its right)
the game should be decided by counterpicking ... if the game is decided by counterpicking then some champions will be played while the rest wont be worth it
counterpicks should mean an advantage that you have ... not that you outperform your enemy in every way possible
matchups should be either easier or harder but it shouldnt be that a champion cant compete into lane without his jungler at his back becuase he got outpicked too hard
teamfights shouldnt be decided by whether your carry is able to outjump entire enemy team without dying
Gordo San1 votesI mean, if you are just pulling facts and statistics out your ass, I don't see the point.
and 80% of champion pool becomes crap because other champions compete more ... oh wait that already happened (and this is the thread that condemns this fact ... and its right)
At the end of the day, you get to see what your opponent have picked, and they get to see yours.
Your team gets first pick sometimes, and sometimes you don't.
You think a champ is OP? ban or pick them. The opponent will do the same.
Your mistake is stating opinions as facts. Do not get them confused.
Knight SoIaire 1 votesYour mistake is stating opinions as facts. Do not get them confused.
so its my opinion that kassadin competes less than ekko lb or zed ... i think that its a fact
the same thing applies when comparing the likes of sion and darius to the likes of gnar and riven
or when you compare veigar to ahri or viktor or xerath
this isnt an opinion ... i just take a champion and look at how much does he compete into a team ... then i look at another one
and after a certain time ... it creates a ladder ... with those who compete less at the bottom and those who compete more at the top
guess which ones get to be played more often
if i would base myself on opinions ... then this stuff wouldnt be true
Gordo San1 votesNothing else to be said here.
Your_ strong_ knowledge of the game has put limits on yourself.
i.e. You stop learning when you feel that you know best.
Trash MammaI3 votesI agree with you completely but i'm not talking about late game at all. I mean laning vs them
Trying to lane as 
and so on vs a ranged champ who has a dash/blink built into their kit is a nightmare
It's insanely toxic for the game. Even an immobile ranged champ like 
is hell. It makes you want to just leave the game and give up instead of dealing with the bs for the next 10-15 minutes.
Especially when other lanes are doing well/pushed you can't really roam and gank so you're stuck there trying to cs against someone who bullies you retardedly hard without taking any punishment, not because they're better than you but just because Ranged is so highly dominant over Melee
Binxy Prime2 votesI generally have a pretty easy time in those lanes, use the brush intelligently and be willing to miss some cs and once you hit a decent level you can usually force them out of lane.
Marthian3 votesThey don't get a reward for being a front line. If they built damage, they are going to blow up.
Also these guys all have just as much if not more mobility
and that's not all of them.
(Teemo is just infuriating in general. He needs a complete rework, and the PBE rework is not it.)
AstroFerrari 1 votesGnar I kind of agree with. The others, re-assess and be smarter in your approach. Know your limits and theirs, then use that to your advantage.
Vistha Kai1 votesHow come you didn't put there?
At least when you finally get a jump on Vayne or Teemo, you can actually kill them. Ekko just nopes away with his ult.
Trash MammaI1 votesRanged
ThaPizzaMan1 votesJust nerf 's hop by 1/8th and I'll be happy. When you're playing 
and you chase her around your own nexus with your E on, 2 laps around, and don't catch a bitch, there is a problem.
Lugg1 votesYeah, gotta love it when your champion has zero counterplay against them.