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The jungler cannot possibly camp Top, Mid, and Bot, all at the same time.

Guy Fox Teemo··5 votes·521 views

All while farming his lane, taking objectives such as Dragon. 99.99% of junglers are not Rush with his Nidalee.

Not all of us can counter jungle, take every single drag, camp your lane, camp everyone elses, farm there own jungle.

Shit do you expect us to win the dam game for you? Why don't you win the lane, a little bit by yourself? I already got bot and mid fed, why should I Have to go top as well, during all of that? I don't just "teleport" across the map, the map is a big map, and it takes time and resources to get across the entire dam thing.

People need to also get rid of this mentality that the jungler is soley for ganking, they are for applying pressure, and they cannot do it to the whole entire map, because every jungler isn't Evelynn.

Your getting camped by the enemy jungler? Coolio, ward, don't push and stop QQ'ing about it, meanwhile I'll get 2 other lanes fed, and get twice as many kills and gold then that jungler got ganking you.

TLDR; The jungler is not your babysitter, and they cannot camp your lane and everyone elses, win your own fucking lane.

9 Comments

SwiftKitten883 votes

while i do agree with this.. if you genuinely need help because you lane is out of control your pinging for help and. i EXPECT the jungle to provide assistance to the lane that needs ASAP.. obviously he cant come immediately.. depending on where is he.

but he shouldn't go "oh well you fed you don't get ganks"

your job as laner is not to feed

his job as a jungler is to provide map pressure AND help out the lanes which need help.

obviously he cant be everywhere.. and if all lanes are lost its likely a hopeless case anyways.

but it SERIOUSLY pisses me off when I'm playing top lane and im doing amazing and my mid lane is doing amazing and bot lane is in dire need of assistance and our stupid jungler is spending all his top ganking between mid and ME making my lane opponent hug his tower and making it harder for me to my get opponent out in the open where i can kill him and completely ignoring bot lane who ACTUALLY needs HELP to stay alive.

i can TP down to help bot once every 5 min or so. but i its the jungler's jobs to recognize WHERE he needs to be. SPECIFICALLY if they ASK for help

Guy Fox Teemo3 votes

See, while I do agree you should provide somewhat of help, your job as a jungler is not to help out lanes in need, that is a Low ELO mentality that has been around for too long, and needs to stop.

If a lane is losing, I'd rather go to the other two lanes feed them, and snowball from there, I have a much better chance of success, going to losing lane.

1: Puts me at risk of the jungler getting a double 2: The enemy jungler coming in which an obvious trade we would lose since said laner is ahead. 3: If the gank is success it doesn't do much since said fed laner is still probably ahead, so I would have to put even more resources into the lane, for my ganks to eventually count, to win my laner the lane. 4: Doing 3 would distract from other lanes, losing out on a snowball I could have very well got rolling and chancing on them losing the lane as well.

So no, helping the losing desperate need help is for the most part not the answer, unless its mid lane since its more accessible, and easier to gank.

Baby Ghoul2 votes

{quoted} but it SERIOUSLY pisses me off when I'm playing top lane and im doing amazing and my mid lane is doing amazing and bot lane is in dire need of assistance and our stupid jungler is spending all his top ganking between mid and ME making my lane opponent hug his tower and making it harder for me to my get opponent out in the open where i can kill him and completely ignoring bot lane who ACTUALLY needs HELP to stay alive.

i can TP down to help bot once every 5 min or so. but i its the jungler's jobs to recognize WHERE he needs to be. SPECIFICALLY if they ASK for help

Finally someone giving us a realistic post in these incredibly one sided jungler threads.

Junglers not providing counter pressure to bot lane is a real problem in season 6, and with the state of turrets currently, it's contributing to games ending quickly. ADCs are so powerful and can do so much after the marksman update, so if you're leaving that lane without any counter pressure, your bot lane will fall quickly. If they manage not to die during a dive, then they've most certainly lost a turret and your team lost Dragon.

A sudden 4 man gank bot lane could cause two turrets to fall so easily, and I'm seeing that happen more often than not this season. Bot lane is constantly bullied out of lane, then all of a sudden the enemy bot lane, mid, and the jungler are diving your ADC and support.

Even when I'm playing another lane like top, it sucks getting crapped on by the ADC that isn't even fed! They just got so much jungler attention in their lane and our ADC got nothing. Yeah believe me, as a support main, it sucks that our team's fate is tied so heavily to how our ADC preforms, like I miss roaming as much as I used to, but that's just the way the meta is right now. If you see bot lane beginning to get crushed, then that's absolutely where you need to be.

Easing the pressure on bot lane saves games.

SwiftKitten882 votes

see that is where you are wrong.

i had a ranked game just a few day ago wher i was bot lane as support.. and we BOTH got counterpicked bot.

we ended up give 2 or so kills to the enemies and then thing really started to get out of hand it frankly got to the point where both thier ADC and support EACH had 5 kills in lane.

now this ENITRE time we were pushed to our tower. pinging desperately for help top lane and mid lane were totally dominating lane.

i stated VERY clearly. WE CANT STOP THEM we need a 4 man gank bot

our top mid and jungler were all fed and winning lane..

and yet they leave us alone to face this ezreal which now has 9 kills

and the jugnler goes "i need to get the other lanes fed"

NO YOU DON'T THE OTHER LANES ARE FINE!!!! THEY ARE WINNING

you need to HELP US we even even get within exp range of the minions to gain exp without getting murdered.

well guess what?

they won that games becuase the jugnler decided to help the lanes that were doing fine into of trying to STOP further damage from occuring.

the game spiraled out of control even though our top and mid where VERY fed becuase our jungler REFUSED to help bot lane. effectivly makes his team own a 3 player team. becuase he pretty much just assured that his bot lane will NEVER get back into the game and be useful.

you want to know what would have made us win?

maybe if he provided enough pressure to the enemy bot lane to make them know that i cant dive is to our tier two tower in complete immunity we would have done ok...

mabe if we were actaully able to get within EXP range of the minions ,, maybe if my adc could get close enough to the minion wave to even farm.

maybe it was possible for me to do ANYTHING to ezreal as blitz when all he has to do is arcane shift our of my pull AFTER it hits him and he never dies.

the whole mentality of " i need to get a lane fed so they can carry" is bull.. yes your team needs to be stronger than thier team... but thats NOT goign to happen them TWO of your players cant do ANYTHING.

its dones't matter if you got your other lanes fed if you turned the game into a 3v5 against you

spend your time getting your players that are behind some GOLD or at lease apply some pressure to his opponent so they can farm safer so he can get back into the game or you will end up with a 3v5.

Guy Fox Teemo2 votes

I'm not wrong in my opinion and most others; thats what most good junglers agree upon(The Point of this argument not me being right lol). Watch any high ELO jungler or Someone like Foxdrop. They agree your better off snowballing other lanes if you can.

Now if those lanes are heavily pushed and winning then yes you can gank other lanes, but for the most part yes you should camp other lanes to get them even more fed.

Now we can agree too disagree, but from me personally having more experience then you in the role, I'd say my analysis is correct, though your entitled to your own opinion.

Live2LetDie1 votes

but obv jungle is suppose to win lanes for them

rtbf477586281 votes

{quoted}

but obv jungle is suppose to win lanes for them

Hopefully your being sarcastic otherwise i fear for your mental

rtbf477586281 votes

{quoted}

LOL IM STUPID LOLOLOL

oh ok

Live2LetDie1 votes

{quoted}

I'm such a bronzie

You replied and changed what was in the quotes hahaha

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