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The more changes and reworks that are made, the more I miss the old

SnugglePuggle94·11/9/2018, 4:01:37 PM·3 votes·1,245 views

Honestly, Riot has changed the game for the worse. Every rework, every "big" change, like the horrible Runes Reforged, makes me miss the older seasons. Although I don't miss Dynamic Q, I miss the stuff that was still there, like:

-Galio, being a huge anti-mage, with his old, AND BETTER, kit and visual. They really did him wrong and have upset so many of his mains. Now he's just a stupid tank that barely does anything, with his old, unique spells stripped off him and totally replaced with something new or a shell of their former self. His visual is not much better either. I miss the blue and yellow gargoyle so much. He needs reverted.

This: [https://youtu.be/cgzo2ti9sAQ]

is on a whole other level of WAY BETTER, than this:

[https://youtu.be/ljA0J5sSd6I]

Old Galio didn't need this stupid rework. He just needed some help with mana costs. NO matter that he was barely played. I don't care. He was LOVED by the people who did play him, and you all did a disservice to him and his mains.

-Runes and masteries- like Thunderlords, Windspeakers Blessing, and rune stats- ap/ad reds, health/armor/etc yellows, scaling/flat, mr/etc blues, and multiple options of quints. These are way better than the stupid system we have now and gave us way more customization for different champions and different build paths. You just needed to lower the costs, NOT FUCKING REMOVE EVERYTHING! -Sejuani- when she was a perma slower and not this shell of her former self. WHERE HER ULT CC'D MULTIPLE PEOPLE! I miss that ice bola that stunned everyone. Not just one person and only slows for a SECOND unless you stupidly stay in the storm. UGH. I miss that perma frost E so bad :( -Warwick- although he's not as bad as the two above, the team that was put on him did do him better than most, but I still miss his old character. That howl when he smelled someone low, the circle Q, the old R animation. Even his old visual, I still miss. I don't really like the potion thing on his back, makes me think of Mundo. -Old IP system. Where you actually got AND FELT rewarded even for losing. This BE system is way worse. You barely feel rewarded, even leveling up- you get a lowly level up that just gives champion shards- not EVEN skins! And when you own every champ, you just have to disenchant them for another low amount of BE and hope you can actually get an S sometime soon so you can get a chest that actually feels rewarding. -Akali- this newly frustrating piece of dung. I miss her old kit a lot more now. She is harder to outplay because of that stupid shroud. And I miss her old visual too. -Irelia/Fiora- miss their old kits and visuals. -Karma- don't even get me started on her. Holy crap. Riot knows the disservice they have given her and STILL to this day, continue to do it without honoring her old mains. They don't bother to listen and still continue to service to her newer players and completely ruin her for everyone else. -AP itemization- another shit show. Riot is know for their bias against them, don't get me started there. They changed and took out a ton of AP, armor and other stats while giving AD all the cool crap like Duskblade, Edge of Night or whatever it's called, STORMRAZOR, etc, while we get our mana regen stripped, AP values stripped, armor stripped (Zhonya's used to be 100, then 70, now less than 50). Not to mention Zhonya's active CD nerfed as well, while only giving us a few dinky Hextech items in return. NOT COOL RIOT! -Not to mention, because of the runes and masteries that were stripped, it stripped many champions of the early defense they usually took. They were barely compensated for it, and this is what led to the shit show of a season it is today. The **snowbally, die in .02 seconds, can't outplay, horrible season. ** Where are the days where you could not die in one spell rotation? Where are the days where you could outplay a champ and it felt rewarding to do so? The 40-50 minute long games where EVERY GAME, had a change to be a comeback, no matter how bad of a start it was. Now- you can't outplay, you die faster than anything and games are finalized basically in the first 15 minutes where if you're down some kills you're done for. -To answer that, it's because Riot is now more focused on the LC$ BIG PLAYS and giving their viewers flashy shit to earn more money- not to mention this new system where it's so much harder to climb- they WANT you to spend money on new champs and skins. They deliberately- even if they won't own up to it- did it this way so people would spend money instead of grind out game after game just to get a new champ. Anyway- Riot is so focused on the LCS for that money gain, that they keep screwing over the rest of the 99% of the playerbase. -I saw the people who complained about the Worlds this year. Literally every game was a shit stomp and there was nothing exciting about it- the games were snowball fests and complete stops. No macro play, no strategically outplaying, no nothing. I didn't even watch it and I don't even want too with the sound of that. -Ghostcrawler- everyone knows about this guy. Why he was hired, I don't know, but he is a lot to blame for a lot of this. He ruined WoW, and has thrown League into a black hole as well. And- get a load of this- he was moved to another position- things are STILL going downhill. Clearly shows that Riot needs to hire more experienced people, that know what they are doing and will make the game better. (Where's Morello when we need him the most?! Ugh). -Removal of Team Builder. This was such a fun and amazing aspect to the game. Where you could build your own team and not get flamed or trolled for going something off meta. I could pick OLD Sejuani support and do well with it, and some people liked that and let me play it with them. I loved picking my own team as well. This needs to be brought back. Now- if someone goes off meta, you are stuck with them and risk losing if they don't do well and you can't do anything about it. (Had two games last night that people did it, we both lost. Thankfully it wasn't ranked but still some people do this shit there too). Anyway, it was a great way to release steam and not get trolled. -Removal of Dominion- just why? It was another fun map that brought something unique to the game. Just because you guys were cough, lazy, cough and didn't want to put resources in it, didn't mean it had to be removed. You could've just updated it and let it be. -.- -New champions that weren't flashy, over the top, overpowered pieces of SHIT. Where was the last champion that wasn't an overloaded pile of dung? Hm? The last one I can actually think of- is Bard. For real. Every new champ has everything now- high ap/ad damage, CC (even on assassins now, which they aren't SUPPOSED TO HAVE), soft cc- slow, charm, displacement, mixed damage, true damage, invulnerability, dash, blink, invisibility, pull, camouflage, heal, shield, pushback, etc. Can we get a NORMAL champion for once that isn't overloaded, something like NAMI?! This is ridiculous. We don't need any more stupid overloaded new champions. (Why was Pyke even created?! This abomination needs to be deleted).

I'll add more if I remember it but literally, I miss the old seasons. Riot has been making the game worse and continues to do so without listening to the players feedback. I still play because I don't have any other game I love as much, but damn do you still frustrate me to my core. And makes me sad when you ruin something I love- RIP Galio. RIP Team Builder.

Riot, if you are reading this, start LISTENING to the players. Start by reverting Runes Reforged. Stop giving nerfs to champs that don't need it. Stop giving buffs to overpowered champs that definitely don't need it. Stop reworking champs into absolutely new champs that have no identity of their former glory.

STOP ruining the game.

Rant over.

8 Comments

Khabith11/9/2018, 4:32:45 PM2 votes

I agree, but I'm still hyped af for the Kayle rework

The Ecdysiast11/9/2018, 4:55:29 PM2 votes

Old Galio didn't need this stupid rework. He just needed some help with mana costs. NO matter that he was barely played. I don't care. He was LOVED by the people who did play him, and you all did a disservice to him and his mains.

You misunderstand the intended audience for a rework. A rework is not for the people who like to play an outdated champion. Obviously, they like things as are. A rework is for those people who still like a champion's concept but have moved on from playing them, and those people who who haven't yet-- in order to entice them to play the champion.

As for the intended purpose, it's to modernize a champion. In many cases for old champions, that means taking away mechanics they no longer want in the game. Most notably, auras and similar ally buffs that act like them. Examples include:

  • Zeke's Harbinger
  • Locket of the Iron Solari
  • Gangplank's E
  • Warwick's E
  • Sona's basic abilities and Galio's W

Granted that Taric's W is an exception to this trend because they wanted to match the whole effect of the ability for the ally and didn't want to remove his self bonus armor.

You may not like it, but their eyes aren't on the people who like aspects they consider outdated. I for one was a big fan of just getting free assists by being somewhat in the vicinity of a fight and popping E as Warwick or Gangplank. But I still appreciate the barrels.

As for my personal opinion on the matter, I think it's perfectly fine for them to do so. But that's because I'm the kind of guy who always looks at the concept and theme of a champion, and reworks excite me with the prospect of what a champion with an outdated kit and model could become.

Eleshakai11/9/2018, 5:42:04 PM2 votes

Every change they make is going to appeal to some people and NOT appeal to others. I'm sorry to hear that you have coincidentally been on the second side of every change they've made, that really sucks for you and I can only imagine what it's like for you to watch something you love go away like that.

Modern Art11/10/2018, 12:04:29 PM2 votes

It would be interesting to see Riot release a "classic" version of League, much like Jagex did with Old School Runescape. Bring the game back to Season 3 or so, where the game was viewed by some as "relatively healthy" for people to play in the nostalgia without impacting the majority of the player-base that is fine with an evolving meta.

It'd be a niche market, but if it incorporated things like URF without the all-random, and Dominion, it'd draw a nice crowd.

Phieldworker11/9/2018, 6:48:46 PM1 votes

I get the whole thing about missing a old champ. I Maine’s swain for a couple seasons and I was presently surprised by his rework. Love it 100% still play him lots. But I completely understand the need for reworks.

  1. Reworks bring the champions into the meta and make people want to play them instead of the 9 people that Maine’s them.
  2. Makes a healthier kit than the feast or famish kits most the older champs had.
  3. Gives them a spot in the lore so you aren’t like who is this ?! IE Urgot.

Not to mention a good 80% of the time they keep the identity intact. Yes there are some that feel like a new champ completely (Aatrox) but again now people like him. I know personally people want to be unique and they like being the only main for that champ but a champ shouldn’t be kept in an unhealthy state for 1 or 2 mains selfish reasons.