How did LL Stylish get this Zed ult off?

Hibeki··4 votes·8,002 views

THIS IS NOT A SCRIPTING ACCUSATION OR WITCH HUNT. I want to know how it happened.

In this video (yes I know stupid montage video, it was in my recommendeds and wanted it out) skip to 4:34

https://youtu.be/kznRe_g4fK8?t=4m34s

He sticks on this ekko, and he waits for ekko to flash before he ults.

The last time his cursor was on ekko was before almost a full second before his ult went off, and after he DOES flash the ult activates while hes doing a movement command nowhere near the ekko, almost a solid 5 frames after he flashes.

This is a few frames after the ekko's flash and the moment Zed activated ult

https://imgur.com/YBZzwKL

His last command was a movement, and his cursor is not on him. We saw previously that ekko hasnt had red outline from his cursor for almost a solid second, so he did not press R and then ekko flashed.

How did he do this? Is there some sort of hidden hotkey to hold the ult before its done being pressed and it will do it automatically? Seems impossible to me...

EDIT: Seems this blew up

I didn't accuse anynone of scripting, I didn't accuse anyone of cheating, I wanted to know how it happened, possibly so I could replicate it myself. Anyone who made that implication (including you) is your own fault. I'll admit, I wasnt perfect and I didn't take the time to make exact numbers because I'm lazy as fuck. But the fact that you took the time to flame a single gameplay boards post, infamous for how toxic it was (granted that I contributed there) really says more about your character than anything else.

I dont even know who LL Stylish is. The name doesn't matter. But judging by the fact that this guy needed to post a response on stream shows hes apparently more toxic than hashinshin lol. If he wants to talk to me without hiding behind is viewers, go for it.

54 Comments

The Bad Touch9 votes

https://imgur.com/a/II7QWEE

Because that is a 30 fps video.

You are missing 2-3 frames basically because he's running at 92fps in game.. The frame where his cursor was over the ekko flash and he hit r was lost.

Hibeki2 votes

Except his cursor wasnt on that location before ekko flashed, it wasnt until after.

The Bad Touch5 votes

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Except his cursor wasnt on that location before ekko flashed, it wasnt until after.

You've always been able to use point and click abilities on the flash animation. As long as they don't have a cast time that is.

Hibeki1 votes

This I didn't know. Also I made the comment before you edited in the screenshot.

This makes sense now. I just find it funny that people think this post was accusing of scripting despite saying the opposite.

A7X Kindred2 votes

{quoted}

This I didn't know. Also I made the comment before you edited in the screenshot.

This makes sense now. I just find it funny that people think this post was accusing of scripting despite saying the opposite.

The more you say you aren't accusing him, the more likely you are actually accusing him and you're just trying to play it off as if you weren't.

SquishTentacles7 votes

Is this post serious? You're an idiot.

'THIS IS NOT A SCRIPTING ACCUSATION OR WITCH HUNT.' - You basically did accuse him in your post and comments.

Hibeki1 votes

No, you took that implication yourself. I have no idea who the guy is and I don't care. I never accused him of anything, just refuted possibilities people listed.

Moe The Hoe1 votes

if u didn't care they why go through all that detail XDDDDDDDD

StrikeWolf61827 votes

https://youtu.be/XGsqV7Ey-Co?t=98 Lmaooo u actually sound so stupid

Strätik6 votes

This is a troll post, right ?

MiniChubbs5 votes

You should watch his newest video :D makes you sound absolutely stupid and I’m kind of glad he did :)

ez mental boom4 votes

It's happened to me a couple times. It seems "selection boxes," or whatever you want to call it, linger for a tick or two after flashing

Hibeki1 votes

This is the answer I ended up taking my understanding with, but apparently LL stylish is more toxic than hash so he had to make a response video.

BisexuaI Skum2 votes

so its not toxic for you to publicly call him about something you clearly aren't well informed on with an accusation that if true would probably end his career but its toxic for him to reply publicly to your baseless accusations and make a joke about it with his fans when that's literally what he gets paid to do.

Hibeki1 votes

I didnt publically call anyone out, I didn't even mention his name for anything other than clip context.

YOU implied an accusation. I specifically stated it wasnt one and at no point did I ever accuse anyone of anything.

i dont know who he is I dont care who he is, the name doesn't matter

BisexuaI Skum2 votes

I don't understand if you are a moron or if you actually really are just clinging to the "it wasn't an accusation" cause that's all you have left if you say it's impossible for him to have done it normally you are IMPLYING he did it some other way which would be cheating of some sort. No you didn't explicitly call him a cheater but you were also totally aware that the only conclusion you can come to if you believe this post is that he is a cheater.

Hibeki1 votes

Didn't say it was impossible, said it seemed impossible without something out of the ordinary. Which it was, clickboxes are apparently lagging behind when flashing.

I didnt say he cheated. I didn't assume he cheated. I didn't leave only the possibility of cheating. This game is spaghetti code central. I mean for fucks sake, Whenever i play sion i need to remember to press tiamat active to have my suicide form getting the passive tiamat procs.

Any game knowledge is valuable. Y'all chose to take it a completely different way than what was said and its entirely your own fault not mine.

White Liquorice4 votes

what a fucking retard lol. Why the fuck he would script and stream and make youtube career absolutely no fucking reason. if u script it so easily seen while streaming

Gόld4 votes

5 Frames away to downvote you [slayer-jinx-wink]

Rorrand3 votes

Hitboxes linger for a while after fast mobility skills like flash and Malphite ult, so you can click on them easier while they're moving.

bokimane3 votes

ur so stupid ngl. legit even ll stylish explained it. u make urself sound dumb

monicą3 votes

the best part about this post is that u cant tell if this were meant to be a troll or he s really saying _ stylish_ scripting lol

The Pröphet3 votes

With this video I proved that Stylish is innocent! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_B7iE2PaGU

Spacedragon933 votes

Gets memed for not knowing how zed ult works and proceeds to call the whole zed player base toxic and says I dont even know who LL Stylish is. smh

Hibeki1 votes

Wow this is next generation of stupid. You took putting peoples words in their mouths to a new level. First an accusation, then calling the entire zed playerbase toxic? I didn't even mention the zed playerbase once.

keep making connections that don't exist. smh.

BuffBunny2 votes

deff scripting Kappa

kong haakon1 votes

obviously xD

Y4RK3N2 votes

You're so right this dude is totally scripting, he should get banned.[slayer-jinx-unamused]

DCStheKing2 votes

Lmaoo now this is funny I can see that you just wanted to know but by putting the key words "THIS IS NOT A SCRIPTING ACCUSATION" and the other things you stated it just implies to most ppl maybe you didn't want to put it in that way but hey diff ppl take things in diff ways [slayer-pantheon-popcorn] Also like just cuz he commented on this post don't really mean he was looking for attention... I am just sayin I am not a fanboi or anything but like hiding behind viewers..really? His chat showed him the link to you post so he did it live but hey thats life you got your opinion and that's, that. dont really respond to post i usually read them dont really care enough to take to the web to state my opinion to a conflicting opinion but hey first time for everything! [slayer-jinx-wink]

Hibeki1 votes

He made a dedicated video on it and posted it on youtube. I'd say thats hiding behind viewers.

Enemy Bot2 votes

Hahaha, so called dedicated video, twitch chat literally turned your analysis into a meme and LL debunked your rant with one word "prediction". You made it sound so important that he has to respond to you privately, but he doesn't know who you are. Why didn't you send a private message instead of posting this onto the forums? The irony in you statement. You say you don't know stylish, what made you think he would care to send you a pm when he could just respond directly to the twitch viewers that posted the link?

Hibeki1 votes

If it wasnt about the post he wouldnt have made the entire first quarter of the video about it. God you aren't smart are you.

MaSter WaSt2 votes

wait, wait waaaaaaaaaait, "are aren't smart are you."???, this is the last thing i want to hear from a dumbass like you lol

Enemy Bot1 votes

More like a small tidbit of the long ass twitch stream, you aren't smart are you? Just so happens that he isn't going to upload the whole thing on Youtube now is he...

Hibeki1 votes

Next level strawman. Doesnt matter if its part of a twitch stream its still a dedicated video.

Enemy Bot2 votes

Next level excuses, can't handle that LL called you dumb and tries to glorify 3 minutes out of 13 minutes to savage your fragile ego. You are here literally complaining about him uploading a video answering your question because you didn't like him uploading it to the public, yet you posted this to a public forum. You post something publicly and the party of interest does the same, but you then proceed to call him toxic, stop being so fragile.

Hibeki1 votes

The difference being

A) His answer was wrong, he said he R'd before ekko flashed when he clearly didn't

B) I didn't insult and berate him. He did.

and C) The entire video was about the post, he repeatedly referenced it. I'm a memer, I thought it was funny, but to say that the video that was literally titled after the thread isnt about the thread is just plain stupid.

You're late for the short bus.

DIEBIATCHES1 votes

IT WAS 5 FRAMES AWAY

without a single shred of DOUBT IN MY MIND

ITS SCRIPTSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who Fed Ru2 votes

He pressed R

NemeBro2 votes

This LL Stylish guy sounds like a moron and a sissy if this perfectly innocuous thread hurt his feelings so badly.

Hibeki1 votes

Really though, even hash is better than this.

NemeBro1 votes

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Really though, even hash is better than this.

I've never seen hashinshin act like such a little bitch it is true.

Laceration1 votes

He ulted him before his flash and if you don't know you will move towards people if you have vision of them and use click on abilities on them

15oLLLLLLLLLLLLL1 votes

xd ''more toxic than hash'' get your snowflake ass out of here

Hibeki1 votes

hash doesnt make dedicated videos insulting someone about a post's accusation that was never made

charge attack1 votes

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hash doesnt make dedicated videos insulting someone about a post's accusation that was never made

He doesn’t make his own videos dipshit. His editor takes a funny clip or game and makes one.

Your ass was so stupid that he included it in the video.

Just Monikha1 votes

5 F R A M E S A W A Y a meme was born lmao i m done xDDDDDDDDDD

Modl Ryden l1 votes

Input buffering.

What that means is that his ultimate was the first and only thing the Zed wanted to do, the action will happen if all the conditions are met. Can Zed cast at the moment? Yes. Is Zed in range? Yes. Is. It channels, yes, however it was while Ekko was still in range, because of this he follows Ekko to his latest position. Zed's ulti also ALWAYS places Zed behind his target.

Edit: Also it looks like he only uses range indicators for his Q. His W didn't have a range indicator when he used is so I'm assuming he has it turned off for Zed's ultimate. It also looks about the same range Zed's ulti is allowed to reach so everything shown should be legitimate.

Hibeki1 votes

We already found out the reason why, and it wasnt this.

It was the point and click abilities can be used on flash animations.

ModJikker1 votes

This thread was already turning into a bit of a witch hunt, and now being necro'd and violating the Board Universal Rules, I think it's time the padlock was applied.

[poppy-wink]

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